dropping the 302 in my unibody and the pan has a tiny bit of a front sump on it. That bit of a front sump is too much. Anyone know of a ford that ran a rear sump 302, 1988 and up? My block is an 88 and it looks like thats where there was a pan shape change of some sort. What ive looked, shows that maybe a van or bronco? Can someone confirm for me?
there are a few aftermarket ones. They start out at 280 and go up! Id much rather pay 70-80 for one from orileys or somewhere thats a factory ford unit
Explorer pan looks to be similar to bronco/van pan. Early bronco is back far enough, though I'm curious as all the aftermarket ones for that early cut off at fitting 87's
Even the pans that have the sumps in the rear (Bonco or Ford Mustang double hump pan) still have a pretty deep pan in the front. It has to be the size that they are because the oil pump still sits right there and requires a certain amount of depth to clear the pump. They are certainly not as deep as the front sump Ford pans, but are not going to be shallow by any means. It sounds to me like you are looking for a pan that is super shallow in front and those don't exist, even in the aftermarket. If you drop the pan and look at just the oil pump itself, you will see what I mean about the need to have some pan depth to accomodate that pump. I am running a 66 Bronco pan in my 27 and it is about the most shallow in front version out there, and yet it still has a pretty substantial front sump to it. Don
No, 351C 351M and 400M are interchangeable. You can get a 70's bronco or 4x4 pan, or they do make a Fox body pan for the Cleveland
Try a 96 explorer rear sump,I used one on my 302 to clear a jag IFS.Got for less than a 100 dollar bill.
See the conversion at racemate.com We make the shallowest pan conv around. Jerry Allen 1-800-671-1711
See the conversion at racemate.com We make the shallowest pan conv around. Jerry Allen 1-800-671-1711
I was just gonna say, check out the local dragstrip forums for parts. I know Milans forums are always loaded with parts, especially when the cars go faster, the guys go dry sump...
I had to get a Bronco pan and oil pick up tube to mount a 302 Ford into a 41 Ford sedan delivery. (same frame as a 35-40 car frame. This was in the 70s so there may be newer solutions now.) It was the hot lick for a 302 into an early Ford back then.
early bronco like everyone else has chirped in.I have used them V8 Explorer might work has a small sump in front.I had an aluminum one, just parted with it sorry. Canton makes one... nice...but $$$
I have a early bronco oil pan with every thing to set up for your engine. pm me if your looking to go that route .
It doesn't have to be super shallow up front. Just the one on mine (88 grand marquis) has mostly a rear sump, but an additional front drop that stops me from being able to set the motor as low as id like to. I do have room to raise it and keep it under the hood if all else fails.
I had a similar problem with oil pans and IFS which is all in my thread; http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366906 Have a read and it may help you to determine which way to go! Also; http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=663175
Ive got too much time and cash tied up in the 302 to go crossbreeding the truck. Have a friend with a later model explorer with the v8, have to catch up with them and peek under it. Also sent a PM to broncogasser about their setup
Yeah, I hear you, I still got my Cleveland engine sitting here waiting for another project as I did go with the SBC in the end and was kinder glad I did but it sure hurt the pocket book...
Ive sunk a pretty good lot of money into it and painted it allready. Looks like a later bronco/explorer will do, at least photos on the internet look like it. And I wont have to change oil pumps as they use the same # as mine allready has in it. Ill be off to the junk yard early in the morning to see what i can come up with.
here the pics . I couldnt pm them to you sorry dont know why I cant get it to work. if this pan dont work look for a late 84-96sh ford or mercury with a 302 . they have a nice oil pan that has the rear hump . that might work out better now that I think about it. there thinner up front by oil pump . sorry for the late info.
No worries, thanks for posting the pics/ my motor is out of an 88 merc, and my pan is about an inch or so shallower than yours at front. I finally broke down and cut my trans hump to make room for it the trans and motor to level out and have about 3/4 inch clearance.