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The Other Flame Styles: Chunky Flames, Thick Flames, Von Dutch-Style Flames..

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by TexasSpeed, Oct 6, 2012.

  1. TR Waters
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    1. Early Hemi Tech

    Period correct and non H.A.M.B. friendly flames. Now there is some funny stuff. :D
     
  2. banginona40
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    This was my ride in High School. My cousin and I did the flames in my Grandmothers garage in Costa Mesa in the mid 60's
     

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  3. S_Mazza
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    I have to wonder, wouldn't some of those early rodders have done more modern styles IF they had the equipment and skill to do it? I would think so. I get that if you are building a car to represent a period, then you would use the styles from that period. But I don't think that using a style from outside that period would invalidate the concept of a hot rod.
     
  4. 327-365hp
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    Here's another..
     

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  5. desotot
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    my chunky flames, my kid hates them, he put ghost flames on his 55 buick.
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  6. 327-365 hp.......thanks for post another shot of the Leland Kolb & Fritz Voigt 32 roadster. Looks like a SCTA Meet at Colton Drag Strip.
     
  7. heres another!
     

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  8. TexasSpeed
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    No, it'd just look like a street rod posing as a hot rod.. And we can debate the definition of a "hot rod" all week and never come to an agreement on an universal definition. Everyone has their own definition but to me, traditional hot rods is the only kind of "hot rod" there is. And this is what this forum is all about. Pre-1965 hot rods and customs.

    Yeah, if all the hot rodders had today's equipment and skills, we'd be seeing a lot more "hot rods" with MII IFS clips, crate 350s, 20" billet wheels and radials. Thank God they didn't have all that junk back then.

    So let's leave the "pseudo-realistic-looking-fire" flame style to another forum and stick to the "different" flames that were done during the '50's..

    Pwetty please? :)
     
  9. BeatnikPirate
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    Here it is in color. This may have been the first flame paint job I ever saw.
    I still think it's perfect on that car.
     

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  10. S_Mazza
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    LOL.

    I get the point of the forum. I was just musing.

    I am not sure what it is about a hot rod that moves you. It doesn't really matter, you can like hot rods for any reason you want.

    Try not to look too hard at post #111 ... some of those vintage flames are starting to get dangerously realistic.
     
  11. weez
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    This is a slide I found last week of my Dad's (Jerry Weesner) '40 Deluxe Fordor in 1975. It was his daily from about '73-'76. (also, he was in the Forties Limited at the time) He used to drive me to school in it when I was 6 or 7 years old. He gave it this loose interpretation of the McCoy flames, but with rattle cans.

    These are not exactly "other flame styles" but I thought I'd post them. He flamed countless cars in his tenure as graphics guy/striper at Collision Center in Hawaiian Gardens where he worked from '75-'83. Obviously a dropped axle and big n littles were not in the budget at the time!
     

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  12. weez
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    The front-
     

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  13. Alex D.
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    This was my flame job in 1976. I tried to be a little different with the color scheme.

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  14. ohiohotrods
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    bill roell-wade hughes done 15 years ago on my 3 window
     

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  15. My home brew....

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  16. TexasSpeed
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    When I say "other flames".. I mean "other" flames, as in flame styles aside from the popular style that is used today. Not "ALL flames." They're nice but they're everywhere.

    Let's try this again.

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  17. S_Mazza
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    What exactly is your goal for this thread? Are you looking for inspiration for your build? Trying to codify what styles are traditional and establish a mini-handbook for flames? Just want to talk about flames? You seem to dislike what you are getting, but it's just a little unclear what you ultimately want.
     
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    Here's our mate flames model a sadly he past away early this year rip buddy but this was driven hard and still will be by his boys


    Posted from the TJJ App for iPhone & iPad
     
  19. TexasSpeed
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    Yeah, I kind of realized that going into it.. Some of the flames on here are exactly what I'm looking for. The earliest forms of flames. Flames that look nothing like today's mainstream style.

    Then the others that I'm not looking for are being posted up anyways. I think it's just one of those "if you don't get it, you never will" things. Let's try it this way..

    If your flames look like these, then they're not what I'm looking for:

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    If they're much more similar to these styles, then post them up:

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  20. TexasSpeed
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    D'oh! Forgot about this one. I found my copy at the Revolution and was like "YES! Something to post up on here.."
     
  21. Nice thread !
    Here is mine, the flame painting is Von Dutch styled, from early 50's !
    Inspired by the Manuel Gonzales' '40 Deluxe in this issue of Car Craft 1956

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  22. Still looking for some pics or infos about this car painted by Von Dutch
    Manuel Gonzales was a "Pharaos cc" member back in the days... ;-)
     
  23. Lobucrod
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    Here's my first and only attempt at flames on my 38 coupe.
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  24. Old Ford Coupe
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    `38 ford coupe deluxe.
     

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    This is the style I have been doing for 30 years.
     
  26. cruzingratiot
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    my cartoon flames from the 80s
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  27. Now let me preface by saying...."Look, I get it. I totally get it" The early styling of flames is to be respected. The style looks good on very few types of builds and from a tiny slice of the rodding/kustom era. Congrats on starting a thread to get 'em all represented. With that said...IMHO I think they look terrible. To me it looks like a 2nd grader drew their interpretation of flames on your beautiful car. I simply googled "kids drew flames" and I quickly got my answer. Here is a few of the pics that came up:

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    Like I said, I respect the early flames, but I would not put them on any car I was building because I would be tired of hearing people bag on the style as amaturish and having to explain the style. I could guarantee if I showed up at the local cruise with my ride painted with early flames I would get laughed at. It's bad enough when I show up somewhere with our Watson painted Olds and I gotta hear the shitty "lowrider" and "Mexican clown car" comments from the Old Farts...Just my .02
     
  28. titus
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    heres my freind Loiues old shop truck
     

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  29. Bull
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    Net this is the one you're talking about . . .
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    Belongs to HAMBer Ratherman
     

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