See my post above, I have run an engine using an A block with the repop Winfield head. It, the engine, has pressurized oiling, is bored to 4" with J$E pistons and I ran a 4.562 crank ground on a B, A Jim Brierley Winfield SU1A reground cam, 1 5/8 exhaust. 1 3/4 intakes,dual Winfield BB carburetors converted to side drafts, shop built intake manifold, modified Red's headers, Basically stock B distributor slightly tweaked by me, CR close to 8.5, CI 229", 16 lb. flywheel. car weighs right at 1500 lb.. I would use the same head design on a touring engine with a J Brierley SU1R. I think the crowsfoot combustion chamber promotes better and equally balanced turbulence. I also think that the better turbulence created by this design can be negated by milling to increase CR. My Opinion. Of course Ed Winfield supposedly said " If you want power use cast iron, if you want to cook use Aluminum". Or something like that, but I know the AL repop Winfield's go fast. I have purchased parts from the Early Ford Store and found them both knowledgeable and helpful.
Hello I am new to the banger sceene. I Just picked up a 31 pickup I am going to run the banger with a Charlie Yapp riley 2 port. I am hoping to go with an automatic transmission. I am wondering if anyone makes an adapter to join a c4 to the banger? thanks Beau
I guess because that is what I want. I already have the engine and head. I don't see many rods around here with the banger in them and fewer with a riley head but that is what I want to have in this truck. I want to run an automatic transmission because I do not enjoy shifting gears.
Look through the A ford barn archives or ask the question there, comes up quite often. I have never seen any times/speeds for C Yapp 2 port but original Rileys go fast if set up right. http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3
There was this thread on the Fordbarn. Might find what your looking for here. Auto-Transmission - The Ford Barn
Winfield Heads. Ed Winfield made two diferent flatheads for ford bangers. He made the Yellow Head and the Red Head (painted yellow and red). the Red Head was the hotter of the two. Later on, Bell Auto made an aluminum head that was designed by Ed Winfield (may be just the Red Head copy, not sure about that). Ed got money for that. I sold an aluminum Bell Auto head a few years ago, never ran it. Bell also made some really neat intakes for Winfield Carbs. I am very confident about the above cus that is what Wes Cooper told me when we were building a banger for my 29 rst pickup in 1975-76. Cooper was friend of Ed's Is sombody making copies of one of Winfields heads in aluminum. If so very cool. Tim<!-- / message -->
I'd love to see a photo of a yellow head....I've got one but no paint remains. Would be neat to see what shade of yellow they were painted.
Winfield actually made 3 different heads, the yellow and the red and the "crows Foot". One legend says that the "crowsfoot" was a design patent held by Ricardo and Winfield was threatened with a lawsuit and stopped production of that combustion chamber. I have seen other aftermarket heads using that design. Antique Auto Parts or Specialty Ford parts, (Jim Gordon) in Rosemead Ca supplies various dealers with the repop Al Winfield heads.
Is Al Winfield a relative. When I was in to Model T stuff, a friend had a ricardo head on his T. How many of you guys have read sir Harry R Ricardo's book. "The High Speed internal Combustion Engine." Gave my copy to a nephew. Tim
These are pics of two of the three repops available from Jim Gordon at Antique Auto Parts in Rosemead Ca. Sorry About the huge pics. Guess I need to read the thread about re-sizing.
I just buttoned down one of the latter on an engine destined for the Tourer - so what's the thoughts on which is the better combustion chamber? I run a Thomas on the current engine - last time I saw a new Thomas head it had a chamber like the first of the two Winfields? Did someone lose the patterns...?
I think what you intend to do with your engine is going to determine what head you choose. The crows foot head was marked as being 7:1, and it checked out at 120cc. The other head was labeled as 8.5-:1 and it came in at 86cc. Jim Brierley recommended the crowsfoot head for the street, and since he has been doing this a lot longer than I have, that's what I intend to do with this engine. I though it was pretty much a given that you would polish any combustion chamber after final shaping, to get rid of any possibility of a hot spot. I admit my experience is kind of limited, but I've never seen any casting that wasnt kind of rough. Hope this helps
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