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Flathead block cracked can it be saved

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by AV88, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. 50flathead
    Joined: Mar 8, 2005
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    If your block if repairable, and I do believe it is, get it fixed. You will be able to reuse all of your internals in the same position that they came from. I know this is basic engine building stuff but if all your parts have worn in together, keep them that way. You'll have a happier engine when it's reassembled and far less cost. Go scrounge up another head that will match the busted one. You'll have a few hundred in machine shop work and a gasket set.
     
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  2. Wardog
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    I know they are very different animals but drag racers weld fist sized holes in they're blocks.

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  3. dellyjonut
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    So I'm not a machining wizard or anything...but I do remember a street rod article that had a flat head with similar damage. They drilled tapped and ran bolts in different directions along the cracks and machined off the ends. Just a though....

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  4. AV88
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    Thanks everyone it's good to here something positive and helpful I will keep the block and internals as a spare motor for my roadster if I need it one day but am looking forward to an overhead valve motor in my shoebox maybe this was a blessing in disguise
     
  5. AV88
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    I pulled to the side of the road as soon as I did smell it , two temp gauges from now on for sure
     
  6. Thought about it before but never did it. You sold me on another temp gauge for my flattie... Good safety!
     
  7. I have to agree with both of these gentleman, and I have been doing repairs like that all of my life. In addition to the sleeve and the seat, pinning or stitching as I refer to it is done with IronTite cast iron threaded pins. A bottle of Moroso Ceramic Engine Seal, and " bobs your uncle ".:D
     
  8. groundpounder
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    Back in the seventies and eighties we would do what Traditions Racing would do! Stitch it valve seats, and a sleeve!....don't forget to read the instructions on the ceramic sealer!
     
  9. paleot
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    I had two of those same cracks fixed on mine ( look up stitch lock repair.com) I am running valves over the repairs in valve seats, I did not replace the seats! the sleeves cost me 100.00 plus labor. the machinist told me I could run the rings over the repairs If I was going to bore the block. I went back standard bore,I had new pistons for free. Luck in your repairs mine worked out great.
    Tony
     
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  10. A tub
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    i have a good idea for you bro just give up on it and wrap it up for me for xmas haha, then i can say i got a flatty for xmas, and zef is right ur shed is messy but not as messy as mine is atm , hey these things happen:D:cool::eek:

    anyone here have any pics of the stitching method im very interested to see how this is achieved?????
     
  11. Jimmy2car
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    I'm very interested to know what problems could have caused one cylinder bank to overheat, other than a head gasket? How does a water pump not work?
    Any other ideas?
     
  12. ironpile
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    You might investigate a method called stitching.Their claim is that it is better than welding. I my opinion I have seen too many flatheads with a lot of money invested only to fail at a most inconvenent time. Plus a lot of flatty gurus offer no warrantee what so ever.
     
  13. AV88
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    I'm also interested in this too , I was thinking a stuck thermostat on that bank at first ,, I'm pulling the motor out this weekend and will take the water pump off to see what it's doing , any other ideas??


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  14. Oh, heres a pic I found on the net. -H.R.D.-
     

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  15. deuce1932
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  16. metalshapes
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    I'm pretty sure that system was originally developed by Repco.

    So it should be available in Australia.


    Edit.

    Nevermind... Just noticed you are in Australia too...;)
     
  17. Stitching has been used on flatheads since the 60s or before. I remember it used to be called MetalLock here in NZ.
     
  18. tig master
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    Yup x2 real easy

    T
     
  19. A tub
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    dam right dude , haha all u need is a needle and thread:D,



    Tigmaster , tell us all how to achieve repairs on em?????????
     
  20. Dude if it was mine Id pin it, add a new sleeve, seat and GO.

    Not only will it be fine but will be way cheaper than a new block which will likely need , magging, tanking, all seats redoing, boring and honing, a slight deck cleanup etc not to mention the porting.

    Pin it and GO, no brainer.

    Rat
     
  21. AV88
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    Hahahahahahaha that's how it's done


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  22. tig master
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    from up north

    Here u go :D

    http://www.locknstitch.com/

    T
     
  23. Possibly wacky 2c;

    I can't stop thinking about the airflow across that bumper & over that sweet grille. I wonder how much air gets thru & into the radiator @ highway speeds.
    Looks to me that grille may 'slide' a lot of air straight over the bonnet.
    This is based only on viewing from 6' height so may be a false lead & if a problem, probably would have shown up on the drive over anyway.
     
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  24. A tub
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  25. AV88
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    Hmm maybe but it is basically the stock grille without the bullets but maybe the opening the temp was pretty good on the trip and I like the grille to much to change it


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  26. treb11
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