need info on t-5 trans . 5th gear has a noise on the power side , not on the let off side . any info , diagrams , etc would be appreciated ... thanks .. [email protected]
Go to www.inliners.org and click on " tech tips " on left side of page . Then go down and click on the T5 tranny page . You don't mention if your T5 is a GM or Ford model but there should be info there to help ? Good luck !
small Tip here...... Just like the holes in the case where it bolts to the bell housing,the S-10 trans is a Metric based design...... If using this trans behind a Chevy SBC or 235 etc, make sure the pilot bushing you've installed in your crankshaft is one that has a Metric center hole [matched] for the S10 input ,rather than the SAE center hole in most that are sold in parts stores for use in the small blocks...... that small difference in diameters, will allow movement/vibe/& sounds at speed in 5th when driving the car......
RMR&C this link worked for me http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/onlineorder/product.asp Thanks for the link, as I also can us this
S-10s were made by GM??!! Hmmmm... Ya learn something new everyday... Like learning how to read the title of a thread before posting an answer that makes you look like an illiterate jackass
RMR&C ................. thanks much for the link . i think it will help me alot .......... my t-5 is behind a model "A" banger ............... 28hiboy thank you also !!!!! thank you again ... steve
What kind of a noise? 5th gear is outside of the main case. How's your fluid level? Input bearing usually begin whining in 1st gear, but eventually all gears except 4th (4th is straight through). Noise in 5th only could indicate an output bearing, but I've never heard of issues with the output bearings going...
He probably means it is in the tailshaft..... was your pilot bearing fitted for your input as I posted above?
I have two T-5's. There are two different sets of ratios. One for the four cylinder and another for the V-6's. Look that up before you make a choice. Both are very dependable. One I have behind a really reworked inline 216 and the other behind a 261. Both perform very well. The final (5th) and first gear ratios are different. Normbc9
sorry I am beating this dead horse NorCalSteve,but I did what I was posting about myself once.....It was the case that the S10 input shaft[metric] will fit loose enouhj in an old style SAE bored pilot bushing[most are SAE] to allow the tranny to make noise and even vibrate in 5th gear at speed....I may be way off here......good luck solving the problem/Kenny
Never knew about the pilot bearing issue, none of the articles I've read about putting a T-5 from an S10 behind a small block Chevy have mentioned it. Who makes a pilot bushing that is metric inside and right outside diameter to fit SBC crank?
the pilot brg came with the kit . i put this kit in this car long before it was mine . the guy i was helping died , thus i bought it in a box . but that is a really good thought . im changing rear gear this winter , ill just take it out & look . thank you guys !! ..... steve
S-10 with the 2.2 have 5-speeds that are GM. V-6 S-10's have Borg Warner T-5 transmissions with a FORD bolt pattern, not GM. This may have been what he was talking about...but who knows.
The differences are not due to their original application. A 4cyl S10 T5 can have either the 4.03 gearset or the 3.76 gearset. A 6cyl S10 T5 can have either the 4.03 gearset or the 3.76 gearset. The gearset can only be determined by decoding the tag# (or counting teeth inside), not the size of the engine. Yes, you do. It is in the tailhousing, but to remove the tailhousing, you have to disassemble the entire top of the trans which requires removal. What is the noise? Bearing noise? Gear whine? What fluid are you using?
as theOP said it was on anA banger and probably a correct pilot bushing ,maybe even custom cut from a metric OEM bushing, to fit the A crank and having the correct metric center hole The SBC is probably available with the correct inner and outer dimensions in stock form,since metrics measurements were used at GM since 1978. The pilot bushing I had the vibe issue with was an older version from the 1960's[SAE in and outside dimension wise]
There's Ford mounting pattern T5's too that invalidate that statement. Specifically, the '93+ WC T5 used in the 2.2L 4 cylinder S-10 and V6 F-body. Bob
I'm in the process of installing a crate motor in my 65 C 10....I also had a barely noticeable noise in 5th gear....I went to my local auto parts and bought a pilot bushing for a 1989 S 10....the outside diameter is the same....the ID is 2 - 3 thousands smaller...I test fit both bushings on the imput shaft and noticed that there a difference you can feel ....I'll find out next week if the noise is gone....
Sorry, in the 1980s S10s, and so far as I know, Camaro also. They don't mess with anything goofy until the 1990s.
A pilot 'bearing' is a caged set of needle bearings..........a pilot 'bushing' is a bronze (possibly Oilite or sintered) solid bushing. Ray
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