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  1. redstraw
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    this thread makes me feel very lazy. great job bet it feels good to have made a car destined for the scrap yard into somethin you'll be proud of for years. hats off to ya.
     
  2. scootermcrad
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    Haven't checked in on this in awhile. Dude, this thing is looking incredible! Well done! Very inspirational!
     
  3. rcnut223
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    I getting ready to install some of the interior wood and need some help.

    I don't any of the brackets, like that between the roof wood and header, the quarter window and floor and the corner upholstery bracket.These are shots I have found on the net.

    Anyone have patterns or extras?

    Thanks
     

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  4. rcnut223
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    Welded up the door patches. I wanted to finish these as best I could so I cut the inside to gain access for my dollies.
     

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  5. CRH
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    Good job on the door! Crap, no room for filler on that seam!!!
     
  6. rcnut223
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    Sorry for the lack of updates: Here is the progress on the 40 ford backing plates i promised weeks ago
     

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  7. rcnut223
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    Had the 75 ford rear narrowed by Mosier, probably should have use a round pumpkin rear .... Here is a shot from a couple weekends ago when I welded the 4 bar tabs on...
     

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  8. rcnut223
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    Here's my qtr pattern on the left side of the car... going to replace the rear tulips they are welded in 1/4" off
     

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  9. The37Kid
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    Ok, without scrolling all the way back, what is the reason for all the backing plate work? Bob.............great job as always
     
  10. The37Kid
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    Have you checked with other 5Window owners..........maybe the originals never matched. :rolleyes:Bob
     
  11. rcnut223
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    On the backing plates, I adapted the complete 64 Buick brakes that came with a set of the drums to the 40 ford backing plates. I originally bought some repop 39 backing plates but decided against that because I wanted the look of the 40 ford.

    The 64 buick shoes are 2 1/4 needed to modify the plates to get every thing to fit. I've got 4 days , actually two weekends in these so far.
     
  12. rcnut223
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    I drew the pattern from the 32 qtr I scaled up, fits the right perfectly and the left as well except at the tulips. Thought I welded those inc correctly the first time!!
     
  13. This is starting to look very, very nice. Keep it going as it looks to be on the down hill from here on.
     
  14. rcnut223
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    Marquette, Hey I was born in Aurora Nebraska!!
     
  15. rcnut223
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    With the front and rear halves of the body welded together I still needed to fix the drip rail and upper door opening.

    Here's the upper door opening repair
     

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  16. rcnut223
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    The drip rails I have a a mess... I tig'ed the holes using copper as a backing material...

    Then carefully ground down the weld
     

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  17. rcnut223
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    Here are the rails welded on the car...lot's of hour tweeking the alignment of these inorder to get the fordor curve and the coupe rails curve to look right...
     

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  18. captainjunk#2
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    outstanding job ,thats some impressive work all around
     
  19. I can dig it cool work
     
  20. You are one hell of a craftsman. Keep on keepin on.
     
  21. rcnut223
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    I have had a few questions about the brake components used with the Buick Drums as well as the process.

    There are several members that have accomplished this by using mid seventies Chevrolet wagon innards. These are 12 x 2 brakes.
    <O:p</O:p

    The hardware i used came from a 58 Buick, and the backing plates to be converted were 40 Ford .


    I had a complete set of brakes and hardware for the 58 including the backing plates. These big cars used 12 1/4 brake shoes, and cylinders and replacement shoes are readily available and cheap.

    Converting this is a trial by error proposition. The key measurements are
    The Pivot location ; relative to the outer edge of the backing plate and it's depth to the face of the plate.

    </O:p
    I cut the actual mounting surface from Buick plate for the pin and cylinder. This gave me the one less variable to deal with, the cylinder to pin location. <O:p></O:p>
     

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  22. rcnut223
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    The 40 Ford plates were disected in the middle enough for to allow for clearence for the 58 shoes, only need 3/16 of an inch or so.

    The lower middle area, the pocket that serves as the location of the pivot bolts on the 40 Ford plates represented more of a challenge. The plates did not give room for adjuster wheel and spring as well as the hole for the adjustment .

    I certianly could have made this easier in retrospect.
     

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  23. rcnut223
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    If I can help anymore let me know.


    As for further progress....

    One of the area's that still needed attention was the deck lid hinge. I wanted stock type hinges.

    I was able to take some measurements off a brookville roadster that useed a stock typw hine. This gave me a idea for the pin location.

    Here is the corner of the quarter on the left side with the old metal cut out and then a shot with the new plate and holes welded in.

    locait
     

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  24. rcnut223
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    Here's a couple shots of the process. The hinge kit was purchased form Mac's and I made stainless fasteners from washers bought a Menards.

    I had to trim the washers, they were a finishing washer with a ridge.

    The bolts needed work as well the counter sunk portion.
     

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  25. rcnut223
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    The drip rail needed trimmed. Here's a shot
     

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  26. rcnut223
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    Once togehter here's what it looks like
     

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  27. rcnut223
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    I should note that a number of Hamb members assisted with pictures and measurments of the ninge pin location on a stock ford . Thanks a bunch to all of you.
     
  28. Mart
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    Thanks for the detail pics of the brake work.

    Mart.
     
  29. Born in Aurora...I will be damed. Small world. When did ya move away? and do you ever get back this way?
     
  30. rcnut223
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    I welded up the dash yesterday. I showed this making of this earlier but never got around to welding it up.

    I tig'ed the panel, welding the long runs all at once. Old timers taught me to stitch this heavily (I use the mig for this).
     

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