Register now to get rid of these ads!

Part of what started it all...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Barsteel, Jun 14, 2012.

  1. Barsteel
    Joined: Oct 15, 2008
    Posts: 732

    Barsteel
    Member
    from Monroe, CT

    Ever wonder what some of the first engines looked like? No, BEFORE the flat head Ford, or even Henry's model T.

    Part of what started it all...here's an industrial engine from around the turn of the century that surely played into the development of automotive applications.

    Single cylinder, bore size is 21" (almost 2 feet)
    150HP at 200 rpm (NOT 2,000...yes, 200 rpm)
    Top of the flywheels are almost 9 feet off the ground.
    What you see are the throws of the exposed crank shaft while the engine runs at 200 rpm.
    If you look to the left, through the spinning spokes you can see a guy sitting about 6 feet away from the engine...that will give you a feel for the size of this thing.

    Courtesy of Coolspring Power Museum, Coolspring, PA.

    If it's too off topic, delete it, but the sight was awesome...

    Chris
     

    Attached Files:

    • otto.jpg
      otto.jpg
      File size:
      142.9 KB
      Views:
      343
  2. servi53
    Joined: Jun 28, 2006
    Posts: 338

    servi53
    Member

    wow, don't be around if that thing grenades
     
  3. hotrodkiwi
    Joined: Jul 3, 2006
    Posts: 69

    hotrodkiwi
    Member

    I'd like to see a video of that thing running!

    Not as old as your example, but the Willys Knight sleeve valve motor was a pretty impressive engineering feat!
     
  4. Good grief! What was that thing powering? It must have been massive.
     

  5. Ole don
    Joined: Dec 16, 2005
    Posts: 2,915

    Ole don
    Member

    At that RPM, it wont grenade. Its been around for well over a hundred years now and it looks to be doing just fine.
     
  6. daliant
    Joined: Nov 25, 2009
    Posts: 700

    daliant
    Member

    And not even a hint of any kind of safety guard around moving parts to be found, that engine would grind you up and spit you out without even loosing one RPM.
     
  7. 3wLarry
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 12,804

    3wLarry
    Member Emeritus
    from Owasso, Ok

    It's powered by steam...Leno has one...they run factory machines via belts.
     
    kidcampbell71 likes this.
  8. Fenders
    Joined: Sep 8, 2007
    Posts: 3,921

    Fenders
    Member

    Cool, but if it's a hit and miss or a make and break engine it wasn't related to automotive tech.
     
  9. Barsteel
    Joined: Oct 15, 2008
    Posts: 732

    Barsteel
    Member
    from Monroe, CT

    It's NOT a steam engine...it can be run on propane, producer gas, or gasoline.

    It's not a hit/miss, either. It was used to power a mill, so they needed steady power, not the on/off of a hit/miss.

    That engine weighs over 10 tons. If any part of you got caught up in it, it would be like a food processor, except you couldn't turn it off. In those days, it was pretty much understood that you were responsible for your own ass around these things, and if you did something stupid, you would pay the price. There were almost no safety guards/shields etc around this engine. EVERYTHING is exposed...crank, gears, valves, cam, etc.

    Pretty cool to see them run...

    Chris
     
  10. Rusty O'Toole
    Joined: Sep 17, 2006
    Posts: 9,659

    Rusty O'Toole
    Member

    There is a similar looking steam engine in a museum in England that was built in the 1820s and was used continuously for more than 100 years. It was taken out of commission and put in the museum some time in the fifties.

    The first "gas" engines were patterned after the stationary steam engines of the time and were made to run on coal gas. In those days every city had a gas works and coal gas piped to every house.
     
  11. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 30,752

    The37Kid
    Member

    I want to see the machine that turned both flywheels! HUGE lathe or some type of super sized router type setup. Bob
     
  12. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 30,752

    The37Kid
    Member

    Barsteel, I hope you know about the show in Kent, Ct. every fall, old cars are welcome to be on display. They have a few large engines in the engine house that run during the meet. Bob http://www.ctamachinery.com/
     
  13. one of my favorite shows, all the equipment is moving and working, tractors and vehicles moving, good swop meet.
     
  14. tommyd
    Joined: Dec 10, 2010
    Posts: 11,959

    tommyd
    Member
    from South Indy

    Yep, thats post worthy!
     
  15. captainjunk#2
    Joined: Mar 13, 2008
    Posts: 4,420

    captainjunk#2
    Member

    probably an oil field engine , they burned the well head gas , and powered all the pumps in the field ,
     
  16. ROCKIT
    Joined: Sep 1, 2006
    Posts: 80

    ROCKIT
    Member

  17. swissmike
    Joined: Oct 22, 2003
    Posts: 1,297

    swissmike
    Member

    This is getting off topic in a good way!

    Lake of Lucerne as the biggest fleet of steam powered boats in existence. They are on average 100 years old and have been in service more or less continually. The are typically powered by 2 or 3 cylinder engines making 600-1100hp at 50 rpm! The connecting rods are probably 30ft long. They are meticulously maintained and the engines are exposed in the middle of the boats where passengers can watch from several levels. One of my favorite memories going on a lake cruise with my grandpa!


    http://www.dampfschiff.ch/dynamic/bildgalerie.asp?seiid=61&bkid=6&viewid=3&modid=Galerie
     
  18. lostn51
    Joined: Jan 24, 2008
    Posts: 2,197

    lostn51
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from Tennessee

    And just think that motor was built with a pencil, paper, and a slide rule, no auto-cad for them. That is what true American engineering at its best!

    Billy
     
  19. Slick Willy
    Joined: Aug 3, 2008
    Posts: 3,053

    Slick Willy
    Member

    Look up the "Sloss Furnace Engine", although steam powered it was quite impressive.
     
  20. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 33,950

    Mr48chev
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    One of the fun parts of going to the Central Washington State fair every fall is watching the old hit and miss flywheel engines run in the display that the club that has them puts on. Each one has a story and one of my favorites
     
  21. stainlesssteelrat
    Joined: Nov 23, 2010
    Posts: 583

    stainlesssteelrat
    Member
    from ms

  22. hotrodkiwi
    Joined: Jul 3, 2006
    Posts: 69

    hotrodkiwi
    Member

  23. That guy in the last video is an accident waiting to happen.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.