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Cast iron 1-piece exhaust / inlet manifold balance tube braze or ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by airnwater, May 6, 2012.

  1. airnwater
    Joined: Dec 31, 2006
    Posts: 40

    airnwater
    Member

    Hi
     
    Have a newly cast iron manifold , its for an inline 6 cylinder flathead
    it's a combined one-piece exhaust + inlet manifold with twin carbs

    All the appropriate surfaces have been machined.

    There needs to be a light wall balance metal tube approx 3/4" diameter ,12" long attached between the inlet parts.

    What is the best means of fixing the tube (probably stainless) in place ?

    Don't want airleaks ,also due to the exhaust manifold being integral some heat will get to it .

    Brazing with brass rod ? Silver solder ? High temp epoxy adhesive ?

    Any precautions ?

     
    Thanks in advance for any advice.
     
  2. Pipe thread + fittings + copper tube ?
     
  3. CutawayAl
    Joined: Aug 3, 2009
    Posts: 2,144

    CutawayAl
    Member
    from MI

    If you can make it work, I would use threaded fittings. If that's not an option, the best possible solution is heating the part red in a furnace then gas welding with iron rod and appropriate flux, creating some bosses to later drill and thread into. Even if the manifold is clamped to a flat plate, welding it that way will most likely require re-machining flat. TIG welding with special rod usually doesn't work out for what you are wanting to do. Brazing is a roll of the dice. Some parts braze well, others can't be brazed at all. The durability of the brazed party is also a roll of the dice. Sometimes things work out, other times not. Brazing can be done with a TIG torch and special braze alloy, or it can be done the traditional way with a gas torch. If you are going to try TIG welding , TIG brazing, or torch brazing, preheating the entire part will inprove the chances of a good outcome.
     
  4. airnwater
    Joined: Dec 31, 2006
    Posts: 40

    airnwater
    Member

    Thanks for those opinions.:)

    It's a restoration application & is somewhat visible ,so didn't really like the idea of the fittings although it is a good one.

    It's a new casting & there is enough thickness of cast iron for threads .

    As it was tricky to hold for the machinist to machine the surfaces ,not really keen on the risk of distortion with a good deal of heat !

    Probably originally the balance tube was brazed? in place & then the machining done.

    It will be getting a ceramic coating , jet hot or similar , I wonder if they have any "sealing" properties ? (If had tube a tight push fit in the holes )


    Maybe will end up using threaded fittings / olives / copper tube & then getting the whole assembly ceramic coated ...
     

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