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single stage enamel VS epoxy primer

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dubie, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. dubie
    Joined: Aug 17, 2004
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    I'm going back and forth in my head on whether I should spray my truck in red oxide epoxy primer or just buy some Hot Rod Flatz oxide red paint to shoot my truck with.

    If I use the epoxy primer, how long will it last in the elements before turning a pinkish color? And how durable is Hot Rod flatz? I've been reading a bit about it and there seems to be very mixed reactions to their paint.

    I just want to be able to shoot it once and be done
     
  2. lowelife
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    I may be wrong, but I believe the epoxy lacks UV protection since it is not made as a topcoat. HRF does have UV protection so that is what I would go with.
     
  3. derbydad276
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    primer absorbs moisture paint it with the enamel
     
  4. 4-pot
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    As far as I know the only epoxy primer with UV protection is SPI's black. Epoxy primer will not absorb moisture as other primers do.
     

  5. rustang
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    Most epoxies are not UV stable... probably about 6 months and it will start to fade/chalk.... I would personally do the flatz...
    Tom
     
  6. NMCarNut
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    While most all the epoxy primer I've sprayed is PPG DP and DPLF, they are (and I believe most every other epoxy primer) damp proof. While they do not have UV protection, the result is thay will chalk and with time the flat surfaces on darker colors will fade somewhat. Aging effect aside it is damn durable. I only epoxy primed a replacement bed of an OT work truck about 17 years ago, it sits outside all the time here in New Mexico and it still looks suprisingly good.
     
  7. 32v
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    x2 the use of spi black it has uv protection
     
  8. dubie
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    Thanks for the input guys.

    Does anyone have Hot Rod Flatz on their rod? ANd how's it holding up?
     
  9. need louvers ?
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    I have had Valspar DTM2000 on the roof of my avatar Plymouth for close to ten years now, and although it has chalked back a bit a good scrubbing with a household type cleanser (think Comet) brings it right back. That's in AZ without a garage.
     
  10. 48FordFanatic
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    from Maine

    Epoxy primer does not absorb water.
     
  11. Hdonlybob
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    Done both...ditch the primer idea if you want it to last very long....
    Good luck,
    Cheers.......
     
  12. 37mj
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    a link to spi epoxy ? or anymore info ,thanks
     
  13. 46binder
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    from Kenosha,Wi

    I had an OT 1971 IH Travelall that was my daily driver here for the past 2 years, and I had sanded it down and sprayed it with SPI, drove it daily. Two years of winter salts, and when I sold it it only had a couple small spots where rust was starting to show, and those spots were where I knew there was deep pitting to begin with. I know I will continue using SPI.
     
  14. Dave 39
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    SPI = Southern Polyurathanes Inc. Great product. Dave
     
  15. jimbousman
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    I have the best luck with a flat clear over base coat. It is as tough, weather and chemical resistant as any automotive paint.
     
  16. ParkinsonSpeed
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    Always use a sealer over your primer... A primer is just that, a primer for paint.
     
  17. derbydad276
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    are you looking to do it cheap?

    rustoleum is 9 bucks a quart thin it with acetone 15% and have fun
     

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