History Quick Change Information

Let's start with the Lynn:
Is there a date on the catalog?
Any Information on the owner of the company? (Lynn Franklin?)
I can't be sure of the address from the picture you posted, can you check and post?
Are there any variables on the quick changes? Like sprint type cases with the change gears in the housings or do they have the change gears in the cover?
Same for side plates and bells.
Magnesium and/or aluminum?
Scans would be welcome.

Thanx,
Bruce

 

John,

Actually yours is the only Rogers I have ever heard about. The casting is very similar to a non-change that I have. Supossedly, it is a Bennett. I'll post pictures so you can have a look for yourself.

Sorry, I don't know any more than that.

Bruce

PS Would you mind if I use your pictures in my book, if I ever get back to it?

 

That is really cool! Unfortunately, that's all I can say about it.

 

Bruce, I scanned the only pages that had qc's on them - the case looks exactly like a Frankland. There's no date on the catalog, but I'm pretty sure I got it in the early '70's. There is no owners name just affiliate of Franklin Machine, 75 So. Owasso Blvd.; St Paul, Minn. There are no variables just stock car rears only. The gears are in the cover. I don't know how to make the pictures any bigger. I hope this helps. Dave

 

FWIW and probably OT, some Margay go-carts were not chain drive but were gear driven. The MC-9 McCullough engine bolted directly to the gear case up top and the live axle ran through the lower part of the case. A 4-bolt rear cover provides access to a possible 7 different ratios of idler gears to run between the drive (engine) and driven (axle) gears. Idler gear engagement depth is determined with specific pillow blocks for the ratio desired. If you raise the rear of the kart high enough, the ratio change can be done in less than 4 minutes, because the lube does not have to be drained and then refilled.
Can't tell when my kart was made, but I figure by its design sometime in the late 60s. The Margay website was of little help.

 

DVEG2'
The catalog pictures in the upper left was a picture of Davis Johnson's sprint car [#91], can not tell if it was Charlie Masters or Ray Duckworth]. Davis was from Harraordburg, Ky.

 

dslavey1 has pics of an Izor quick change on his album here.

 

Dave, Does your catalog have a date on it? I have been wondering about the hub and drum in the photo, now I see it in your catalog. The housing in the photo is a 39-41 Ford 3/4 ton as called for in the one application. The cases in the catalog appear to be narrow,(3.75") like a Frankland, compared to a Halibrand (4.375").

 

WOW! This thread turned into something amazing! I am learning about QCs for my Salt car and have two Franklands of varied age. Seeing all the different ones is priceless!

 

Thanx Dave.
I have come to the conclusion that the 'Lynn Franklin' story is the most plausible. You have confirmed my suspicions that the Lynn Quick change line was rather limited and looked almost exacty like a Frankland.
The note about the extra capacity side bell is interesting. If you find more info about additional Lynn Quick Changes, please share.

My understanding about Safety Racing is that they made hubs & drums etc. but no QCs. The catalog cover shows a Quickie but it looks like the spindles are highlighted. Does the rest of the catalog support this?
Also, dates and ownership information would be nice.

Bruce

 

Bruce, Your right the safety race case, according to the book is a halibrand. I have one, when I needed a case I got one from Safety Race. It was heavier duty than the halibrand I had. Here is a page from the Safety Race catalog and pictures of the qcs I have - one frankland has 50-51 3/4 ton axle housings, one has frankland aluminum housings. the other is the halibrand and has aluminum side plates. Hope this helps. Dave

 

Thanks Bruce for any info! !What do you think they used for the ring and pinion? I only have the pinion gear (see picture). I does have a one piece axle. Thanks

 

This looks like a stock Crosley rearend that someone adapted a Quickchange to. John

 

when I was piecing cars together with no money[most of the time]I had a Franklin rear in a sprint with cross torsion bars,normally that would not give you enough room to pull the back cover.Franklin had a two piece cover that let you pull just the back like a halibrand.The other odd rear cover you may run into is a CAE that engages and disengages the bottom change gear to take it in and out of gear- CAE used it in their first rear engine sprint car.A local guy had one for the FRONT quick change on his 4 wheel drive sprint car![and yes this was on dirt!]

 

I got my Magnesium Jones Quickie around 2007. I located Levi in Georgia and called him asking a few questions. He had a website but I can't seem to find it now. In our discussion, he mentioned that his foundaries in Indy kept catching fire back in the day and they pretty much ran him out of town.

 

Any intrest in the alum floater drums in this thread?? Ive got a few sets i'd like to Id, BTW on the hubs they are mostly set up to the same dimentions as 38 ford drums, as in 38 drums will almost bolt on the racing hubs but some sets ive seen have 45 fin buick drums cut to fit too....

 

Used to race with Hanley Taylor who was the principle owner of Safety Racing Equipment. They made the various welded and cast side housings and axles that fit onto a Halibrand champion center section. These were mainly built for the Grand Rapids upright super modified trade. Hanley's own car had a 3" Halibrand open tube in it, though. He made some really nice two piece magnesium wheels that were very popular in the upper Midwest.

Doc

 

Integral aluminum hubs and drums that I have seen are almost all either Safety Racing or Frankland. SRE (that was what they abbreviated themselves as back in the day) made hubs that worked with cut Buick drums, both with the wide Ford hub pattern and more modern bolt patterns. We also had a couple of guys locally in Grand Rapids who put these together in backyard facilities. I am sure there were other suppliers, but Frankland and Safety Racing Equipment were the biggies on this stuff.

Doc

 

Three examples of hub and brakes, 4C Racing(San Jose,Ca),SRE drum and disc, the SRE drum assys I have work with early Ford (39-48) brakes. 4C's utilize wider shoes, their backing plates have logo stamped in. SRE discs came in aluminum or mag.I have used stock Ford drums (37-39) on Frankland Hubs.

 

Allach , Auckland New Zealand circa 70s to 90s , Model A dimensions and internals. Ray Allach manufactured numerous parts for for speedway cars...dirt midgets.
The patterns eventually ended up at Kiwi Quick Change in Nelson New Zealand.

Algie , Kawerau , New Zealand circa 60s , Ford V8 banjo dimensions and parts.

 

Bruce
Still looking for q.c. info.I am a retired tool and die maker have made four of my design will try to make about three a year,if interested I can email pics mine use ford banjo center sections.
Mike

 

Bone, I'd like to see your QC. why don't you Post the pictures for everyone?

Bruce

 

Dave,

Does the CAE catalog have a date? I know that Jim Culbert was from La Mesa. I thought his shop was there, too. The address on your catalog is San Diego.
What I'm trying to figure out is that catalog before or after Culbert Sold out to Curt Waters, who combined it with Halibrand.

Any scans of the Quick Change parts are appreciated.

Thanx,

Bruce

 

I have one of those spacers. I got it with a Jones rear end. I'd like to see the Frankland flat cover. Any pictures?
Thanx,

Bruce

 

A couple years back I sold a magnesium case Rodgers on Ebay. Seems to me that it had Philadelphia also on the case. It was a Crosley unit.

 

To all who have been watching and contributing to this thread.................Thank You!

This is the weekly update with new information highlighted. If you can add to it please do so. Again, pictures of any and all variations are appreciated.

Bruce

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BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Kiekhaefer?</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Fon du Lac, WI</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl63 height=20>King</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl63>Detroit, MI</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Kiwi</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl63>Nelson, South Island, New Zealand</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Klentz</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>CA</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Kollstedt</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Hamilton, OH</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Krech</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Inglewood, CA</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Lane</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Layne</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Kansas City, MO</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>LeBaron</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Goshen, NY </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Lehane</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Sydney, Australia</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Locke</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Fresno, CA</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Lloyd?</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Lynn</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>St. Paul, MN</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>National</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Milwaukee, WI</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Ogan & Zigler</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Orindorf</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Parham</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Oregon</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Progressive</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>QCS</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl63>Milwaukee, WI</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl63 height=20>QMS</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl63>Santa Ana, CA</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Quigley Bros.</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Southern MI</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Richmond</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Chicago, Il</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl63 height=20>Roberts Engineering</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl63>Breckenridge, MI</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Rogers</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Ross</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Schiefer</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Warminster, PA</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Speed Demon</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Clifton, TX</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Speedway Engineering</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Sylmar, CA</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Stock Car Products</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65>Richmond, VA</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid" class=xl65 height=20>Thompson</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; 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Maybe you can help ID this QC for me. Jones mag bells, Winters deep cover, Frankland rebuilt it for me and stated it took the same size spool as a Winters.

The tech thought it might be a Winters, but there are NO markings on the center casting, and the guy at Winters told me that if it was Winters, it would be marked as one.

I've not seen any that have this style of fins at the back. I'm wondering if it's an older Coleman QC

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=567123

Thanks,
rick

 

Have had several, Highland, Frankland, Winters, but the most unusual one was aluminum,each leg and bell in one piece, with the spring pads cast in place as well...Had forgotton about it until this thread, may have been a LeBaron, although my memory says LaGrange for some reason....We all thought it was made for dirt cars originally. Ended up under my friend Moon's GMC /37 Chevy stockcar after I broke what was in it, and it's still around. Wish I had pictures.

 

A frankland i built for my T roadster, anyone know what brand/era the hubs are???

They have buick drums machined to fit the hubs...

 

Here are some pictures of my q.c. it has the rear bearings mounted in a steel carrier which is paraham style it is a Oregon thing.