Price of the new metal 32 five window announced

Only Brookville knows for sure. Does anyone know how many roadster bodies have they sold? Pricing on those has been very stable since introduction. I would be willing to bet that they made more money selling patch panels, doors, and stuff than they did selling bodies.

I asked the Dynacorn guys why in the hell they would manufacture a 47-53 chevy truck cab when you can still buy near perfect cabs for a thousand bucks and they told me it was all about selling the parts.

 

They are NOT passing the savings on to customers!

They get shit made cheaper, shittier quality and still the price is high!?

Ill keep doing what I have been doing for years, buying shit pieces and use them to build cars.

Pete-

 

What would a fair price be for one of these brand new 5-windows?

 

Just like the failed Hot Rods & Horsepower steel Deuce 3/W,.... or the Brookville Deuce Roadster or 3/W,... Quality will probably dictate that. IMHO

I would like to see a complete one.

 

They've been extremely successful in selling these, and have earned that successs. But in manufacturing it's not just the tool up cost (and ignoring all the normal day to day costs of plant, materials, and labor in addition to other costs) but they also have ongoing tooling maintenance costs, AND projected costs for replacement of existing tooling as/when it wears out. I believe they're using Kirksite for the '32 dies which, according to some knowledgable folks I know in similar circumstances, is good for something around 1000 strikes before needing major repair/replacement.

Shift to the general audience now. I'm not interested in a whizzing contest, but can be blunt at times. There's a reason (okay, many reasons) that fewer people succeed in business than the number that fail. Most studies show 4 fail for every 1 that succeeds. Most often it's because the costs of operating a business are way underestimated, and expected income is way over estimated. If these folks are over priced as some here think then their sales will reflect that and they'll have to figure out how to eat repop bodies. If they figured right, sell a bunch of them, then the chump hat goes on someone else's head. And for those who think that these guys are being greedy and making too much money ripping people off (not just these guys, anyone you think that of) then the good ol' former Ameircan thing to do is grow the nads to compete with them and prove you're right..................................or maybe get a lesson in reality.

BTW, for a product like this it would be difficult to develope the initial tooling for less than $1million, more likely more than that, but if you don't know anything about that sort of thing that probably sounds like BS.

 

HAHA YEP, just think about how many shit bodies and body parts will come onto the market now........but does it mean they will be worth more than 22k for and orig body??

 

and the next question, brookville 28/9 and 30/31 roadster bodies are nearly half, you think they cost that much less to manufacture, i dont think so, so are they making that much more on a 32 body, i have to think so.

 

Love them or hate them one advantage to the release of a steel repro five window body will be just like what happened after the Brookville roadster and three window came out. People holding onto original Deuce roadster and three window bodys who would never let them go began selling. The same will happen once the completed repro five window body is avalible.
Another advantage is the body parts being avalible new garnish moldings, sub rails, rear quarters, doors. I bet a lot of original bodys in need of those parts to make them whole once again will help add to the bodys becoming available. That happening I think most of us woudl agree would be a good thing.
Ronnieroadster

 

Would it be a bad thing to put America, or even Sweden first? Lots of hotrod guys in both places, Tiawan not so many I would venture. Seems like suits trying to profiteer as usual.

 

One thing you guys are forgetting is that we are traditional rodders, and we are the minority. The street rodders who typically get a shop to build their car, or at least the major part of their car, wont care about the cost of the body because they would have to pay a panel guy to restore an original anyway. This way they get it done instantly, rather than months in a panel shop. They're also not knowledgeable enough to know the difference in quality of the pressings. Consequently this will appeal to them and it will sell, which is of course the way the financial backers perceive it.

 

IMHO,
Saw the body in question during the GNRS, The display body was an original with the parts that they already make installed,ie; decklid dash and doors etc. The stuff looked acceptable=quite good infact.
If $22k is the price, I'm quite sure that Brookville would meet that price if it came down to the 5w purchase vs their 3w purchase. In fact, reading their literature, the dash is not included in the body, that is separate.

Brookville's 3w includes all of that. If the choice is between the 2, Give me a call and I'll see what kind of deal Kenny or Chuck can put together.

 

It's out of my price range, and made outside my country. I'm going to the basement and sand and prime my Brookville dash made in OHIO. Bob

 

^ This is my sentiment... That is all.

I needed a union jack for my shop wall, and saw a nice one in a store. good price, Cool. Read the package (Made in china)
I almost puked, I was pretty upset and could NEVER fly that, Nor would i spend my $25 bucks to show my "American pride".

Let alone 20k+ to show the world my "American hotrods"

Its sick, and if you buy one too...Then so are you.
I'd hope your hotrod pride is burning & destroying the inside out of you, while you stand around at a car show and let kids look in awe at what a "real american car" used to look like.

Don't get me wrong, I couldn't afford either a Brooks or a Taiwanrod at this time, But godamnit I have values.

 

This is true, and its foolish to think its not a global market place.
But this isn't a TV or radio.

Its just what the car represents. Reproduction is one thing, I buy repro stuff when needed for my cars (Mind you I seek out USA made stuff)
But these cars are a lie, Con'd up by investors.

 

Which is more costly to produce. The 5 Window , the 3 Window , or the new 1940 Coupe from Bob Drake ? I have seen the new '40 advertised in the $15,000 range and I would think that project was more expensive to do. Regardless, we live in a capitalist society and each of these companies has a lot of invested to do the bodies and deserves a profit for their taking a risk in the production and accomplishing what they have done. If it costs more than you are willing to spend , don't buy it! It's just as much your right to make that decision as it is for these companies to charge what they feel they need to to make it worthwhile for them. Just another thing to think about.

 

I agree: Bob Drake's new coupe is much more work and is priced reasonably. My money would go to Bob. If Bob can sell an American made '40 for $15K then you can make a profit on a Taiwan made '32 at $10K.
If they sold those 32 5W coupe bodies for $10K they'd sell thousands of them. At $22K maybe hundreds. I don't believe the 7 digit tooling cost rumours. Tooling just isn't that expensive anymore - those making the bodies want you to believe it is;-)

And you can all stop worrying about it being made in Taiwan. At $22K, 90% of the profit at least is being made in the USA, and that's what capitalism is all about. Sit in your armchair and make money on the phone while some other poor sod busts his gut in some third world country making your stuff for you. Its capitalism, get used to it, its here to stay.

 

You guys can send all of your rusty, rotted crap to my house.....turns out I have more time than money!!

What happened to good ole' USA.....down the toilet....pretty soon China will figure out how to refine our human waste / poop and sell it back to us at a profit.....


Pete-

 

wow......now thats car porn..... I didn't realize that you can "reproduce them" the same way you can reproduce cattle

 

Im convinced they do already
Check out the cardboard there stuff? comes in

 

Good point...it even smells funny now that I think of it.

What it really comes down to is the US forcing companies to look elsewhere due to the high manufacturing rates here in the states.

Pete-

 

Yep

 

I think anything over $15K is priced way too high. If Dynacorn can produce Mustang, Camaro, Firebird, Challenger and Chevelle bodies, with far more stampings, for $15K or less, why can't they sell a 5-window for that?

 

Bob Drake, please make a '32 Ford 5 window...
...

 

I'm not saying "Made in Taiwan" is a good thing, but just HOW could someone prove a Taiwan '32 wasn't a Brookville or even a real '32? If the dies are good, how could anyone ever know the difference? And trust me, there's a shit load of guys passing of Brookvilles as real Henry steel.

As for the cost...... yea, that seems kinda high for just a body. "Yea, but it's a '32" doesn't fly with me. Hell, 34's look better. Perhaps the high cost is relative to all the '32 hype? "Deep down, everbody wants a '32." Then, EVERYBODY will have to pay up.

32's are cool, but man, they're kinda over rated. IMO

 

I think Bob Drake's^^^ 40 Ford coupe body is more than $22,000

 

If you do a little research, I think you will discover that Bob Drake's '40 is made in Taiwan and that is beautiful.

 

I'm actually glad to see a Taiwan produced product priced as high as a US made one.
The only we as a country can compete with the effective 0 labor cost and no environmental regs over there is to place tariffs on the imports to offset the 0 labor to meet our current labor+fringe and environmental costs. Not saying we are paid to much but look at the shit HF sells for 1/3 the price of ours because of cheap labor ETC. Hard to make the right choice for many at those numbers.

I don't care where you make it so long as it won't take food from our tables or money from our pockets. Make it here and keep it here.

Make the cost a non issue where the only difference is the quality of the item you want to buy. Then see which flag you live under. It will matter then more often then it does now.

If I had some odd desire to have a 3w 32 and I wanted new metal I'd see Walden or Brookville even if I had so save for 5 years to swing it.

 

Very good point.