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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ptra2417, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. ptra2417
    Joined: Nov 28, 2011
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    does anyone know what the difference is between the front axle on my 59 f350 and the front axle of a 59 f100 is? i can buy a power disk brake conversion for a 59 f100 but i dont know if there is any major difference between the two that would allow me to use that same kit. any advice would be helpful.
     
  2. amx180mph
    Joined: May 11, 2011
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    The F350
    King Pin

    A Dimension : 0.490
    B Dimension : 6.005
    Bearing Type : TB
    C Dimension : 2.537
    D Dimension : 0.375
    E Dimension : 0.689
    King Bolt Bushing Type : M
    King Bolt Set Pin Diameter : 0.922
    King Bolt Set Pin Length : 6.990
    Pin Type : 7

    The F100 King Pin
    A Dimension : 0.500
    B Dimension : 5.544
    Bearing Type : TB
    C Dimension : 2.255
    D Dimension : 0.375
    E Dimension : 0.646
    King Bolt Bushing Type : M
    King Bolt Set Pin Diameter : 0.859
    King Bolt Set Pin Length : 6.540
    Pin Type : 7
     
  3. havi
    Joined: Dec 30, 2008
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    lug count would be different between the two, so plan on running a different wheel, which won't match the rear, which means having to carry two spares.
     
  4. Mr48chev
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    Well the F350 is a one ton and the F100 is a half Ton so if you plan on using the truck as a truck and not just a cruiser it might be a bit light for your needs.
    You can most likely bolt the F100 axle to the front springs without a bunch of extra work or even swap to F100 springs and all and make a Half ton out of the truck and then swap in a F100 or F150 nine inch with the matching 5 on 5-1/2 bolt pattern and you have a half ton with a one ton frame. And you can get a disk brake front end kit for it.
     

  5. ptra2417
    Joined: Nov 28, 2011
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    i have a ford nine inch rear that i am putting in as soon as i have the gears finished. the new rear has a 5x5.5 bolt pattern so i would be making the front match the back so i can have all new matching wheels and tires. i just want to see if i can attach the front disk brake conversion for an f100 to my f350 axle with no problems
     
  6. havi
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    the earlier F1/F100's use the same front axles and spindles as their F3/F350 counterparts, so maybe the '57-60 F100/350 can do the same, I'm not too sure on those newer trucks, though.
     
  7. uglyjesus
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    Does anyone no were i can get a gasket kit for a f350 steering box,its a gemmer box Casting # 4cc07 its a slightly larger box
     
  8. Mr48chev
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    It may be the same original forging on the axle but the king pin diameters are different.

    ptra2417 I had to look three times to get that right) the first thing I would do is check the wheel bearing numbers and sizes for both the F350 and F100 spindles. The outers will probably be the same but the inners may be different as that might be the big difference in the spindles.
    If the wheel bearings are the same the kit should fit the F350 spindle "IF" yep big if, the bolt pattern for the backing plates to bolt to the spindles is the same.

    Worse case, you are off to hunt for an F100 front axle and spindles for the truck. But that might be the easiest as king pins and other pieces are readily available for that axle.
     
  9. ptra2417
    Joined: Nov 28, 2011
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    Yea that makes sense the only thing that has ne nervous is the steering if I go to an d 100 axle is that steering setup different from mine of will mine just connect I know a junkyard that has aa 59 f100 I have to find time to get over there and look
     
  10. I've got '60 F-350 spindles, brakes and rear on my AA. Although I'm gonna look for a dual master cylinder and maybe a power booster to replace the old-style single, those drum brakes are plenty strong enough to stop quite well for most purposes. You've got to be either road racing, mountain driving or coming down quickly from a hot quarter-mile run to cook out the braking power, I'd think. Any of that in your plans?
     
  11. ptra2417
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    Yes sir all of the above! I want to be able to cruise go to the track when my friends go. I also an building a 351w as soon as I get the block back from the machine shop
     
  12. willowbilly3
    Joined: Jun 18, 2004
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    Is it a 9 foot bed? I parted out a single wheel 59 once that was, pretty cool.
    Also, I have never bought a kit to do a disc conversion. I can almost always come up with a rotor to fit with some bearing research, and from there some home made brackets for calipers, usually using the weld on rear brackets from Speedway or a dirt track supply store. On my econoline axle and my buddys 39 binder, the drum was seperate from the hub and it was a simple matter of separating the hub/drum and using Aerostar or Crown Vic rotors.
     
  13. ptra2417
    Joined: Nov 28, 2011
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    yea its a nine foot bed i built it myself just til i can find an 8 foot truck bed. do you have any pictures of the disks brakes you put on the econoline?
     

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