I just picked up a 31 ford all steel full fendered car. It has a C4 auto in it now, but will soon be leaving the planet and a top loader taking its place. As I look through the HAMB at all the cool hot rods its automatic after automatic. I think hot rods were meant to have a clutch and a 4 or 5 speed!!!! If you have one I would sure love to see some pics and info on your set up. If I cant shift it, I'll just leave it in the garage!!!!!
just finished 1931 model a roadster Big block Mopar with a 4 speed having trouble postin picture will try later
My avatar has sported a Tremac TKO600 for about 8 years now... I'm with you on this one, Just don't ask me to live without an overdrive!
Narrow early footwells get crowded with that third pedal, but when you do see it, it's more often a T5 than a four speed. -KK
Just pulled the C4 out of my car last month. Installed a S10 T5 5 speed last night. Used a hydraulic clutch set up due to limited space. Not a lot of space under the dash but I made my own pedal assembly, as you can see I am still mocking up my gas pedal, still need to bend the pedal to fit but it all fits and works fantastic so far. I also moved my slave to the passenger side to actuate the clutch fork, saves room on the drivers side. I am using frame mounted pedals/masters. A lot of info on here, the search engine is your best friend. What motor you running? Welcome to the Hamb!
I think alot of it comes down to a matter of economics with a 4 spd vrs an auto trans.I used to be a 4spd freak and have had several in hotrods i have owned but i realised that a well built auto trans will hold up better than stick set up dollar for dollar on a dragstrip not to mention the consistancy factor in bracket racing .I do still enjoy driving a 4 spd in a street rod though ...
Haha. Boom. But all b.s. aside, I am a 4 speed freak too. The costs of buying, rebuilding and engineering a 4 speed into a car is more difficult than an auto IMHO. In this economy its not as easy as it once was to stumble upon a good 4 speed for cheap. But auto trans are everywhere for cheap, and will take quite a bit of abuse. Just my 2 cents Hack
Haha VonCool, Funny but I never said the car was done. Its a rolling project car. However the 302 and C4 are installed. The 302 is coming back out for a different cam and some tri power with stromburgs. Have the top loader and bellhousing but looking for some ideas for pedals. Top is getting a 3-1/2in chop.
pretty sure it does not exist unless you have pics to show us! And I could not find your intro so I am not even sure you exist...
Why have 3 or 4, when you can have 5 or 6 just as easily? More gears equals better drivability. No choosing overall ratios for power or economy, you can have both.
As I get older, I get lazier. I have a pickup with a 5 speed that I still drive but I like the automatic better. My left knee is bad and I could never work the Hayes clutch that I had in my 57 back in the day. I destroyed several 4 speeds.
Depending on where your steering column ends up, the pedals can get a bit tight, but certainly acceptable. this is my 31, which got a Pinto 2.0/auto drivetrain back in the 80s, complete with Pinto column (not the smallest setup in the world). when I put the Buick and stick in it I used all Wilwood pedal and hyd components. it drives very nice. mater a fact my wife even drives it on occasion. BTW. I purchased a complete 215 Buick with it's T-10 for this project about 2 years ago for $450.oo it had been in a Vega which was wreaked. bolted the setup in my model A and drove it. Russ
I just sold a 4 speed toploader and nearly financed a 5 speed M5R2 swap in my 35. Very pleased with the 5 speed.
<<<<< My first car ever was a pedal car. To this day, I still have a pedal car. The only differance that I still can't figure out is. Why do the the tires spin faster when I mash the right pedal. That use to stop them in my first car.
my avatar has a 4 speed toploader behind a cad 365. it runs through a crager adapter and wilcap flywheel. works great, but i'm looking at trading up to a 5 speed for highway drivability and fuel milage.
I've got one of each. My 41' Ford convertible runs a 55' Olds with a Ford toploader four speed but for drag racing my 34' ford runs a turbo 350 w/ 371" Olds power. A man has to know his limitations.
I put a cast iron A833 O/D in my 31 Pontiac coupe. Made an adapter to fit an old Desoto bellhousing which bolts up to my 354 Chrysler. Still trying to break it.
I just bought a Muncie 4-speed and a bellhousing for my coupe. It's got a turbo 350 now. Still researching the rest of the parts I need...Pedals (swing or under floor) clutch kit, flywheel, shifter etc. While it's all apart I think I'm gonna do the front end (dropped axle w/ hair pins) and steering column. But it's a lot of coin to spend !!!
Not necessarily Sam. I've been tinkering with these A833's for a while. Within this last year I've bought two of them, one for $100 and the second for $125 since it had the chrome hurst shifter handle. Yeah, they both came with linkage, Hurst Plus shifter, and shifter arm. Haven't seen you around for a while Sam. Stayin' out of trouble?
Muncie 4 speed here. I can see why guys use autos. The clutch was my single biggest headache when I was building my car. Problems with an aftermarket flywheel are the reason it is currently spread all over my shed floor. I can't drive it wearing boots...have to wear Converse so I don't push 2 pedals at once. Would I swap it for an automatic? No way! Pete
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