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Chevy straight six swap questions - going in a '31 Chevy pickup

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by scottlep, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. scottlep
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    Can newer chevy straight six engines, such as 250's, 292's, be adapted to use front and rear motor mounts such as early 194's, 216's and 235's?

    I am asking because I am looking to do a swap into a '31 Chevy 1/2 ton pickup. I want to keep the parallels leafs and use a drop axle and keep the current steering set-up. I think if I used the side mounts on a newer 250 or 292 then I will have to change the steering.

    Has anyone out there put a newer 250 or 292 with side mounts into and early 30's Chevy and been able to keep the stock steering?

    Thanks,
    Scott
     
  2. 29woodie
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    I think you'll find you will need to change your steering. Maybe you could move the box back toward the cab and lengthen your drag link. I'm using chassis Eng. tube mounts with a 250 in my 1929 Chevy frame. I'm not going to be using the stock hood, so I moved my mounts forward a few inches, but there still is very little clearance for the steering box and exhaust. [​IMG]
     

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  3. budd
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    i installed a 250 in my 45 GMC, i made my own engine crossmember out of 1/8"x1"x2" tubing and two pieces of 2" angle, i used the stock trany crossmember and made a adapter out of a 1" piece of angle, i used a rad out of a 66 chevelle moved infront of the rad support
     
  4. snelson57
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    Not meaning to hijack the thread, but I think that this remains on topic.

    As an alternative, has anyone changed to a modern steering box with a drop axle and the parallel leafs? What box do you suggest?

    Sorry, I dont know anything about the 250's or 292's. I am putting a later 235 in mine with side mounts.
     

  5. hotcoupe
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    a `54 235c.i. engine will bolt right in and it is a full pressure motor and there is a lot of hop up stuff available. just something to think about.
     
  6. Normbc9
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    I have two '32 Chevy's and both have larger inline sixes in them. I had no trouble installing a 216 in one and a 292 in the other. But I do have a different drive line and manual transmission in one. The other has a Power Glide in it.
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  7. 29woodie
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    Normbc9, what steering setup have you used? That's one nice looking car!
     
  8. scottlep
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    That's badass with the side draft carbs. Where did you get that set-up?
     
  9. scottlep
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    Does anyone know if all the more modern sixes (194, 230, 250, 292...1960s on up) are the same length? I have read that the 292 is taller than the others, but what about the length?
     
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    I love Stovebolts. Bump for any other information for Scott.
     
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  12. scottlep
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    inline292....Thanks, I figured out what to do about the motor mounts. My most recent question was about the dimensions of the different inline sixes. Just wondering if a 292 is longer than a 194, 230, 250. I know a 292 is taller, but can't really find out about the length from the front of the block to the rear.
     
  13. 54pumpjack
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    292 is the same length as a 250 just a little taller.
     
  14. Snarl
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    '63-79 292 water pumps are approx 1/2" longer than '80-87 292 pumps. The 194-250 pumps are the same depth as the '80-87 292 pumps.

    250's and 292's do have a pair of threaded holes to either side of the timing cover that could be used for motor mounts if needed, but I wouldn't do it unless I was mounting at the sides of the bellhousing also.

    I don't know why something couldn't be made to work for a motor mount on the drivers side. Langdon's sells a motor mount that is offset forward about 4" to clear the steering in a 49-54 car. If that doesn't work, at least the concept should work. Figure it out...
     
  15. mink
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    Enclosed is my 250ci fitting in the stock engine bay of 32chevy. hood fits. I think i bought the mounts from pete and jakes. Chassis is boxed. Also if your keeping the original straight axle i definately recomend the ECI bolt on disc brake kit $600. Check your spindle though for wear

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