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building cast iron headers for flatheads

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 31ACoupe, Jul 23, 2011.

  1. 31ACoupe
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    seems like i recall a thread long ago about someone building a set of headers using cast iron exhaust manifolds on their flathead V8. has anyone done this? are there any drawings or plans? any ideas or comments? thanks.
     
  2. badshifter
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    Did they cast their own? Or cut/paste/weld /whatever together?
    What's the advantage to a cast header?
     
  3. 31ACoupe
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    i don't recall that they cast theirs, it seems that they modified stock ex. manifolds and welded them up to fit their setup. as far as advantage goes my only knowledge is i have run fentons on my flathead and they sound so much better than tube headers.
     
  4. I am kind of curious on your choice of words here as well. "Building" with cast iron? Not using any tubes? I wonder what you would use as raw material to fabricate these? Cast iron is not the easiest material to weld I'm told.
     

  5. RichFox
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    Could he have used schedule 80 pieces from the Hardware/plumbing supply? Don't they repop Fenton headers for a Flathead?
     
  6. 31ACoupe
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    i have a friend that welds cast all the time and does a great job, it isn't all that unusual. i had a set of fentons on my 41 Ford and really liked them much more than a set of tube headers i had on my 52 F1 years ago which sounded kind of metallic/tinny. as to my choice of words using building i might have used fabricating i guess, not to worried about getting scored on my english i guess. my friend just got through splitting the manifod on his 47 chevy truck for duals and it sounds great. he is considering splitting the exhaust on my 53 pontiac straight 8 motor so i can run duals on it. he told me to look for another manifold to use for this. i don't know that he would use tubes and have never heard of schedule 80 hardware/plumbing pieces but will check it out. thanks for your comments but i was hoping to hear from someone that actually built/fabricated an exhaust setup on a flatty.
     
  7. RichFox
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    I think what the question is, "Building implies that you are fabricating a set of headers from scratch. Most of the time when stock iron exhaust manifolds are used the person is "Splitting" the manifold. Making it duals. Not building headers" It's a little hard to understand what it is your asking/planning because of the way you asked. Are you building headers or splitting your exhaust manifold? Couple of pictures of headers
     

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  8. Rich has a better way with words than I.
     
  9. Mathius
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    I still don't understand the advantages of using the cast iron manifold instead of making headers? An appearance thing to give it an era look? I'm a certified welder, who works with metal for a living. I've never tried to weld cast, but I know some pretty damn talented welders that will say that yeah, you can do it, but the results are not perfect every time.

    Take a good look at this site: http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/welding-cast-iron.html

    That guy really knows his stuff.

    Mathius
     
  10. 31ACoupe
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    wow. guess i'll just drop it, my original question seemed simple enough until semantics took over. thanks for the comments.
     

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