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strange way to drop a axle?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Jimv, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. Jimv
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    Saw this on a model A sedan in Providence the other nite & was wondering how offen this was done & how safe is it? Looked pretty good & looked like its been this way awhile!!
    JimV
     

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  2. DocWatson
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    That is just plain scary!

    Doc.
     
  3. anteek
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    Butt ugly but it works. Probably stronger than a stretched one, if it has Good welds, but not for my car.
     
  4. gasheat
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    If properly welded it will last. Its different. I like it.
     

  5. el shad
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    What about gusseting or fish plates? Dont need it? That's supporting a lot of weight.....
     
  6. outlaw256
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    i dont like it but is it any worse than shortin or makin one longer?i really dont know.
     
  7. little skeet
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    Is that a drop?? Doesn't look like a drop to me, it goes the wrong way!
     
  8. pug man
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    ahhhhhhhh no way.......Jose
     
  9. Hnstray
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    No, it doesn't. that's the spring perch on the left, not the spindle.

    Ray
     
  10. VooDoo Child 56
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    Sorry, but I don't know what I'm looking at. Could you post a farther away picture, or a picture of the right way to do it?
     
  11. 117harv
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    I haven't seen that word in print for many years..lol

    X2:eek:
     
  12. Atwater Mike
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    Hmmm...some people run Superbell cast iron I-beams...LOL
     
  13. silent rick
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    looks like he zee'd it. i think the same way when i see some zee'd frames
     
  14. 39Truck
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    Allways fun to see another way to think.Thanks for pics.
     
  15. slefain
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    Not so sure about that one.
     
  16. little skeet
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    Looked like the king pin!
     
  17. Spidercoupe
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    I was looking at it backwards thought it was all wrong. Ill put my glasses on backward and take another look
     
  18. propwash
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    geometrically (alignment from vertical) this person has also increased the track of the vehicle by a few fractions of an inch. Don't know if that was part of the plan, and....I'm not real comfortable with the design - how deep are the welds penetrating? Is the spacer a solid piece or an enclosed rectangle/box? Last, but not least - it just doesn't look right...but that's just my traditional eye working - and that eye always LIKED the 58 Edsel grille, so go figure.

    dj
     
  19. chriseakin
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    Wonder if he used two axles to keep the original width? Cut the ends off one leaving the axle as long as possible, then cut the ends off another leaving enough length on them for overlap on the first axle? It's the only way that makes sense to me.
    Chris
     
  20. Not the "right" way to do it by today's standards but I wonder how many things were done like this back in the days before mass produced aftermarket parts, and worked just fine for many years. For example, how many parts on old dirt racers were patched together like this and took a real beating on the track but would be shunned by today's critical eyes? Lot's I'll bet.
     
  21. nukeman
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    It looks like it was cast that way to me. Nice even sand grain on all of it. I'm pretty sure the dropping was done in the pattern shop, possibly by one of the aftermarket companies. Matched the draft angles for a casting too.
    If it was welded, someone took an awful lot of time grinding down the welds to blend it in so nice. But you can see sand grain in places where they would have ground down the welds.
     
  22. 19Fordy
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    Look carefully. The tire and backing plate is on the right side of the photo.
     
  23. 28hiboy
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    It could have been a Prince, now it's just a frog.
     
  24. alchemy
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    No way that's cast. Who in their right mind would make a casting of such an ugly axle? I think you are seeing kinda fresh paint over the top of old rust and paint give it a rougher texture.

    As for the safety, who knows? Lots of guys would give their left one for a fabrication-dropped Okie Adams axle.
     
  25. oj
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    Lot of work for that little bit of a drop. Looks like tossit material to me.
     
  26. Ebbsspeed
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    If it was vee-d out appropriately, and welded with consecutive passes, it's probably pretty solid. We can't see the engine, maybe it's got a Pinto four cylinder in it, so it doesn't need to be as strong as if it had an iron hemi.
     
  27. nukeman
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    Your logic is quite elusive, yet undeniable.
     
  28. little skeet
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    Yep, you are correct..thanks!
     
  29. alchemy
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    Not the first time I've heard this.
     

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