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Is anybody still using a manual tire changer ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by losthubcap, Apr 8, 2011.

  1. sfort
    Joined: Jan 15, 2009
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    from texas

    My uncle had a Gulf station in Hilister Texas where I would spend my summers. When I was tall enough to reach half way across the windshields to clean them he hired me. He taught me how to use tire spoons. This was before tubeless. Learned alot working for him. I remember one time a car pulled in with all four tires on fire. The guys brakes had locked up and overheated to the point they ignited.
     
  2. no55mad
    Joined: Dec 15, 2006
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    Mine is used mostly to break the bead. The tire gets removed and mounted with irons (while on the changer) so it has never been mounted to the floor. Just roll it out from storage when the need arises.
    While on the road with a uhaul, the trailer got a flat. Tire guy came out and removed and mounted a tire with irons and a hammer, right on the parking lot pavement.
     
  3. rusty bill
    Joined: Oct 7, 2010
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    Got one in the basement and one outside and use them both depending on the weather.
     
  4. In the early 60's I used a tire bead breaker and wheel removal machine very similar to what you have in the picture. I guess that would make the machine at least 45-50 years old. It was rugged and dependable. I would love to own one today.
     
  5. they are tough on the back
    oh dont let the tire iron slip and hit you in the ribs, will take your breath away!!:eek:
    i did hundreds of race tires:eek: in 18 year of stock car
    the breaker can be extended by slipping a pipe over the top for mounting 10 in rims did a lot with the home made extension, rember to not slip:mad: with the bar!!!
     
  6. Dynaflash_8
    Joined: Sep 24, 2008
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    from Auburn WA

    i use a bead breaking hammer and spoons
     
  7. Degenerate
    Joined: Aug 5, 2007
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    from Indiana

    I use a Coats 220 motorcycle tire machine. I don't use the overhead portion of the machine, I just want the rim held so I can work with spoons. After many years of sprint car racing I got used to mounting with spoons. Later all the wheel mfgrs. came out with the bolt on bead locks which made the job a little easier. Using spoons is not bad even with stiff beads once you have the technique down.
     
  8. used to have couple of these machines and they work: now have 20-20 coates and they are great because parts are easy to get if needed.
     
  9. darkk
    Joined: Sep 2, 2010
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    I'm using a set of old flat tire spoons when it becomes necessary...
     
  10. F-6Garagerat
    Joined: Apr 12, 2008
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    we do. just mounted my firestones last week. saved me $100.
     
  11. TagMan
    Joined: Dec 12, 2002
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    I have one of the Harbor Freight units. I don't use it every day, but I've changed a lot of tires on it. I have lead anchors in the shop floor and bolt the changer in position when I need it. Works great for a cheap piece of Chinese junk.
     
  12. Bad Daddy
    Joined: Nov 13, 2010
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    We have one of those that dad mounted on a concrete pad outside the shop. I just need to figure out how to use the thing. . .
     
  13. LDGn63
    Joined: Jan 27, 2005
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    Use one often out on the farm! Before that it was a long and a short rear leaf from a '55 chevy! Man that changer is UPTOWN!
     
  14. rusty76
    Joined: Jun 8, 2009
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    from Midway NC

    It's funny but we use ours to mount our race tires. They're alittle bit of work but heck they work.
     
  15. budd
    Joined: Oct 31, 2006
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    on the old clanger i used i would put the rim on the machine upside down first and break the back side down first, then flip it over and lock it down with the cone shaped center screw/nut, then break that side down and then remove the tire, it had an air cylinder to break the backside down but i could do it faster my way, when you had 4 or 5 cars a day to change all the tires on you figure things out.
     
  16. henry's57bbwagon
    Joined: Sep 12, 2008
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    I am still using the one that came out of my Dad's garage(circa 57). I removed the threaded insert and milled the center shaft and welded the thread insert higher so the threaded collar holds newer rims.
     
  17. 4950ford
    Joined: Oct 16, 2007
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    from cushing,ok

    Tire soap, big ass screwdrivers, and my knees
     
  18. long island vic
    Joined: Feb 26, 2002
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    nope,, manual got deported, so i have this american guy bob doing them now.....
     
  19. Lobucrod
    Joined: Mar 22, 2006
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    from Texas

    I used to use one in the 60's fixing flats at the texaco station. Not hard work when you know what your doing. Old hard tires can be a bear though. I've been using a separate breaker and tire irons for 40+ years and finally picked up a Coats manual machine about 2 years ago. Much easier on the back than doing it on the floor with spoons.
     
  20. A55HOLE
    Joined: Mar 25, 2010
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    Yes! I found one (though not quite as complete as the one you have) at a flea market a few months ago. I bolted it to the floor with enough room to move around with the bar. I think it's cool to have something that doesn't need air or electricity.

    Some interesting links:


    http://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=150798

    http://www.oldphoneman.com/TorchesForSale.htm (look near the bottom of the page)

    Also, there's a .pdf attached with a parts list for the machine I have (the Coats Three Star). My machine is slightly different (it has a round base).

    You should stretch before using it (that's what she said)... :)
     

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  21. LDGn63
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    whoo... used the heck outta our this weekend.... man im sore!
     
  22. 2manytoys
    Joined: Feb 24, 2009
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    from Fresno

    I too have one just like yours that I picked up for $40. Mine has a 5 foot diameter steel pipe ring welded on the bottom. I stand on the ring to keep it from moving around when I change tires. When I'm done I just roll it out of the way. I have a lot of cars so I use it quite often. At the price the tire shops charge this thing paid for itself the first day I had it.
     
  23. Seepwater
    Joined: Aug 13, 2006
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    I mounted mine behing the house. Use a half a 55 gal drum as a form. I kept pulling the entire concrete pad up as I levered some tires.
     
  24. Drewski
    Joined: Feb 22, 2008
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    I've got a Big Four that I bought new in 1974. I added extra length to the pivot bar so that I could deal with the 10"-14" wide wheels. I remember in the 60-70's that a lot of guys wouldn't let you touch their aluminum wheels with a powered changer. I saw a lot of them broken with the air powered jobs.

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    I owned a custom van shop and we used it all the time. You can dismount and remount 4 tires with one of these pretty quick if you knew what you were doing.

    As I recall these were around $175 in 1974. I've still got the manual that came with it.

    Drew
     
  25. Huddaan
    Joined: May 5, 2013
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    from Mo

    I know this thread is pretty old, but I had to post my tire changer that was my grandfather's way back in the day.

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  26. hot rust
    Joined: Sep 18, 2007
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    yes still use the same one you have in pics plus i have another earlier model i believe, trying to find all the accessories for it.have seen them mounted to a tractor trailer wheel and the wheel poured full of concrete to keep it from tipping over during use(the dish part down) mounted two 16 in spoke wheels with some old 650x16 tires i had around to make some roller wheels just this week.
     
  27. Craig Owens
    Joined: Jun 28, 2006
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    I've got one just like yours. I bought it about 12 years ago at the Petaluma swap meet. I paid 25 bucks for it, an old Sun Engine analyzer, and a home-made transmission jack that weighed as much as a dead horse.

    I didn't get any of the accessories with mine, though, so I made an upper bead breaker and a tire iron. I bolted mine down with Red Head concrete anchors, but that's about as far as I got. I dismounted and mounted a tire once just as a grudge, but my home-made accessories didn't work so hot, and it's not something you'd want to do with any wheels you valued much. Part of the problem was, I didn't realize that the cone or the part that actually holds the wheel securely to the machine was missing. I was trying to hold the wheel down only with the hook that's actuated by the foot pedal, and needless to say,it didn't work worth a shit.

    Maybe I'll get inspired to troll the swap meets or e bay for the accessories I'm missing.
     

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  28. patterpillar
    Joined: Jun 16, 2013
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    from Montana

    Mine looks like this one but it still has the air cylinder for the bottom bead breakdown. Best 50 dollar trade ever. Though my Dad has one like the OP, He quit using it after he turned 80.
     

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