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54 chevy question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Mike662, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. Mike662
    Joined: Sep 17, 2007
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    Been driving my 54 chevy for a couple of years and havent touched the motor since i got it. Runs great so why screw with it if it aint broke. The only problem Im trying to address this year is after driving longer distances if you go to start it right after shutting off, motor turns over way too slow, and then sometimes catches and turns over normally. Ive got the origanl 115 6 cylinder in there. Any opions as to if its the timing, or maybe the selinoid?
     
  2. RDR
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    is it still 6 volts?...need a bit more info...does it seem to "kick" against the starter (timing) when you say it turns over slowly or does it just sound like a low battery?....could be the starter armature dragging on the windings (worn bushings)
     
  3. Mike662
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    yes still 6 volt, turns slow like low battery
     
  4. kustom beale
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    my 6 volt ford generator was worn down ,car would still start ,but cranked slow.check how much yours is chargeing should be 7+ volts.rock on
     

  5. 53sled
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    Cheap things first, throw a new heavy ground cable on. Then a new Positive cable.
     
  6. JohnEvans
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    Draging starter would be the place I would look . That is a problem that shows up when things are hot first, later all the time.
     
  7. jcmarz
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    I had no idea that Chevy made a 115-6 cylinder!
     
  8. DIRTY_WHITE_BOY
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    When fuel went up to 27 cents a gallon Chevrolet went to a 3 cylinder 115 cubic inch to save fuel. It still had the same starter as the 235 though.
     
  9. PhilJohnson
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    I need to find me one of them 3 cylinders. Sure would be great to save some coin at the pump :D
     
  10. Mike662
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    Stock Motor Blue Flame 115

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  11. 53sled
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    Yeah, well, we call them Stovebolts or 235s. but i digress.
     
  12. johnny bondo
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    i think thats the smaller model 216.
     
  13. JohnEvans
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    Nope that's a 235 !
     
  14. 53sled
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  15. Mr48chev
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    I'd go along with the armature dragging. You can pick up brushes and bushings at NAPA and or some other parts houses and rebuild/refresh the starter in about an hour or so including pulling it off and putting it back on.

    The brushes would either be these
    http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?A=ECHR503_0314524905&An=599001+101954+50012+2012017
    or these
    http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?A=ECHR500_0059079073&An=599001+101954+50012+2012017
    depending on the shape of the ones you have and the bushings would be these
    http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?A=ECH4200_0059078621&An=599001+101954+50012+2012017
    and
    http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?A=ECH4200_0059078621&An=599001+101954+50012+2012017

    Obviously you have to take the starter apart. The brushes are pretty self explanatory and it takes a small sharp chisel ( I use an old screwdriver that I have sharpened) to cut and crimp the old bushing in so that you can pull it out with needle nose plyers. Drive the new bushings in and put a little bit of lube on them and put it back together good for another few years.
     
  16. Mike662
    Joined: Sep 17, 2007
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    thanx for all the info!
     
  17. Straight Eight
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    from Howell, Mi

    Might be the field coils. I had the same symptoms. New field coils fixed it
     
  18. wvenfield
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    My 1954 Chevy with the 235 did the same thing. I was told to check all the stuff you were told and then I was told to do this..............

    After a long drive when the car got hot and the car would barely turn over I was told to pore some cold water over the starter. If it then starts right up it's time to rebuild the starter.

    Sounds silly, but mine was as simple as that.
     
  19. 32phil
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    from New York

    My Dad had a 54 Chevy, he bought it new. It was his first new car. I remember going to the Dealer, Pape Chevrolet in the Bronx, NYC to pick it up. Pretty car it was a Two Ten 2 door sedan , white top over dark blue body. He kept it 9 years. Once it was about 6 years old it wouldn't start when hot. We never figured out why. From what everyone is saying it probably needed a new starter.
     

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