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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by CoolCat82, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. CoolCat82
    Joined: Dec 18, 2008
    Posts: 82

    CoolCat82
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    from Hungary

    Hi HAMB-ers!

    I just want to get some info about air ride suspension.
    I have a '47 Pontiac Torpedo. I was a 4 door sedan and I turned it out to a 2 door coupe. Has a new '89 T/A rear end and a Holden HT front suspension.
    I'm wondering how should I start the bag project...
    From the rear or the front? At ride height or with the bags are down?
    I would be really glad if we can talk a little about the adjustments about this suspension system.
    Thank you

    Here's a picture of the Poncho next to my hot rod.

    Greetingz from Hungary!

    Robi - CoolCat -
     

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  2. bonez
    Joined: Jul 16, 2007
    Posts: 3,487

    bonez
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    from Slow lane

    I think The Ht was a A arms style frnt (MII) so you dont really need anything specific.
    Just build your own bracekts and cups and your set.
    Any 54 chebbie front or mustang II set up pics will be helpful.

    If you have any specific questions just ask.
     
  3. CoolCat82
    Joined: Dec 18, 2008
    Posts: 82

    CoolCat82
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    from Hungary

    Yes, it's just a simple A arm style, like a Malibu, or a Mustang II.
     

  4. bonez
    Joined: Jul 16, 2007
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    bonez
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    from Slow lane

    ?? news ??

    And also i meant to ask: how the hell did you end up w/ Holden parts in Hungary?
    Must be the weirdst thing to hit a subframe in whole europe :D
     
  5. CoolCat82
    Joined: Dec 18, 2008
    Posts: 82

    CoolCat82
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    from Hungary

    Not much news. I'm still working on the body. And working out planes about the chassis. I got tires for my front and rear end. Volvo shares the same bolt pattern like Holden.

    I got this front end from one of my friend. He's a hamber too, "oz1940".
    He lives in Australia but lived here in Hungary some years ago.

    First I want to get the springs out from that front end.
     
  6. AAFD
    Joined: Apr 13, 2010
    Posts: 585

    AAFD
    Member
    from US of A

    Bags go in place of the coil springs up front. Some simple brackets need to be made for the bags, you can buy them also and modify them to fit. Out back, same thing. If you have coils...the bags replace the coils. If you have leafs, you can ditch the leafs and do a 2-link with panhard bar, or do a parallel or triangulated 4-link setup. Most likely will need to notch the frame in the rear to allow for axle clearance when you let the air out of the bags. Set it up so that everything is parallel and even at your desired ride height. Then make sure everything clears when you dump the air out. Bump stops are good insurance and setting it up so that the chassis doesn't rub the pavement if it loses all the air is also good insurance incase a bag bursts or an air line/fitting comes apart while you're driving. I like "DOT" tubing and "Push to Connect" fittings, because they are very easy to install and replace. There's tons of info about bag setups on here, so just keep searching, or ask any specific questions.
     
  7. lenmann
    Joined: Dec 1, 2006
    Posts: 52

    lenmann
    Member
    from NorCal

    Check this website, he's a Hamber and has helped many with their setups. Offers up great pricing on everything you will need too!

    http://www.arrowoodrodkustom.com/
     
  8. CoolCat82
    Joined: Dec 18, 2008
    Posts: 82

    CoolCat82
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    from Hungary

    Thank you for the additional infos!

    Finally I found out which bag would be perfect to my setup.
    Here's a pic of my front bag. It has a good diamater to fit perfectly in the Holden front suspension.

    I'm wondering where to locate my front shocks..
     

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  9. newpy383
    Joined: Mar 30, 2007
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    Awesome pic of your rides by the way.
     
  10. lenmann
    Joined: Dec 1, 2006
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    lenmann
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    from NorCal

  11. newsomtravis
    Joined: Jun 1, 2009
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    newsomtravis
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    from pville, ca

    wouldn`t use those bags, if they are the ones i think they are......and you don`t need a bag that tall anyway......look around more before you make a product decision.....
     
  12. CoolCat82
    Joined: Dec 18, 2008
    Posts: 82

    CoolCat82
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    from Hungary

    Unfortunately the space is very tight in the front end therefore I use those bags.
     
  13. CoolCat82
    Joined: Dec 18, 2008
    Posts: 82

    CoolCat82
    Member
    from Hungary

    Hi again,

    I install the rear triangulated 4 bars nowadays.
    Is it enough if they parallel to each other or it is needed to be parallel to the ground also at ride height?
    Is there any trick with the lenght of the bars?
    My upper arms would be 18" long and down would be 35"

    Thank you!
     

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