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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by grey46, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. grey46
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    Im putting together a 1958 283 for my 64 Nova ,currently a 6 banger . Nuthin fancy just a simple rebuild ,trying to get the old school look,found some very nice fined valve covers with offset bolt pattern , Motor has a 2 bbl intake and would like to find a new square bore 4 bbl intake with provision for the oil fill tube to keep the look,or an original and just use a square bore adapter. Any thoughts or ideas ?
     
  2. i'd look for an old Edelbrock C4B intake
     
  3. pro85fiero
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    Fill the oil through the valve cover. Your best intake investment is the Edelbrock "Victor Jr." (or "Vic Jr. for short), part #2975. Will be the best all-around intake, a Holley 4150 or Edelbrock carb will bolt right up, fits easilly under your hood and is still "old school".
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  4. inlinr6
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    just find a older offy 'weiand or edelbrock,dual plane should have the breather tube provision.or a competent machine shop can bore the hole for you.check racing junk or e-gay.good luck
     

  5. inlinr6
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    e-bay has a cb3 with the tube in it at a starting bid of 29.99 item#150525049997.hope this helps.
     
  6. pro85fiero
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    The one on my car is OLD! I bought it just the way you see it, in Carlisle, for $125.00 bolt on and ready to go. Any competent engine shop as well as the "Chevrolet Small Block Performance Engine" book will tell you that the "Vic Jr." intake is the smartest all-around choice.
     
  7. Rex_A_Lott
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    Victor Jr on a mild 283 is not the greatest idea. There are probably a lot of people able to prove me wrong, and make it work....but you could do better for a cruiser.
     
  8. F&J
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    That Victor is not old enough for a 283 "old school" look.

    X2 on looking at an old Weind, they had the pipe, and not seen often on cars today. Very cool IMO. I saw one with a chrome filler and an old Holley for 75 sitting on a shelf at the local junkyard.
     
  9. 58yeoman
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    Edelbrock makes a new intake with a fill tube, i have one on my 283.

    Call speedway or summit
     
  10. tommy
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    Look closely at all flea market finds. When the change came many intakes still had the boss for the fill tube but it was no longer drilled. If the boss is there it's a pretty easy machine shop job to drill it to accept the fill tube.
     
  11. falcongeorge
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    Victor Jr is gonna be totally useless on a mild 283, and they started making them in the late seventies. I guess if you are 15-20 yrs old, thats "old school" but it sure as hell isnt in my books. The C3B has been mentioned several times, is late sixties period correct, and will also work quite well on a mild 283. I made a filler tube boss on the single plane thats going on the 327 for my wagon with two part epoxy and bead blasted it, once its painted it looks pretty good. But I am running a lot more head, cam and compression than what it sounds like you are talking about.
     
  12. falcongeorge
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    A "Say WHY-AND" dual plane would also be an excellent choice.
     
  13. chevyshack
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    To bad you where'nt closer. I got one id sell you for $60. Thats what i paid for it at the swap meet last year. It looks brand new. Thats where you should check is swap meets. Theres hundreds of them at every swap meet ive been to. Summit Racing sells them also if you want a new one.
     
  14. 56sedandelivery
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    The intake ports on a 283 are pretty small. Any "newer" manifold will require port matching the heads to the intake, in order to be optimally effective. I say swap meets, Craigs List, E-Bay (yeah I know, bad word), or the classifieds here. The old single plane Edelbrock Torqure's are pretty cheap. You may even want a multi-flanged carb mount, so you could run an old Rochester 4-Jet or WCFB Carter. I have one on my DD truck, with an Edelbrock carb, stroker 305 (334 CID) with 601 heads (small intake ports), and it works fine; not the low end dog most think it would be. Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
  15. pro85fiero
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    I may be wrong but I believe the "Vic Jr." came out no later than '71.
    Question: Am I missing something here or do people always put there engines together with "GLUE"? :eek: If that's the case I'd prefer JB Weld! :D
     
  16. sawbuck
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    we are trying to stay pre 64 not 74
     
  17. plym49
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    You want an Edelbrock C4B. Perfect for a 283. Use a Rochester 4 Jet carb (as used on late fifties and early sixties GM V8s). Same size primaries and secondaries.
     
  18. pro85fiero
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    First "gray46" about staying in '64, he's saying "old school look".
    Secondly, my post didn't say '74! My post said that I believe the "Vic Jr." came out in '71 which is 39 years ago. In my books that's OLD or "OLD SCHOOL". Many first gen. Novas had gone to the "Vic Jr." when they realized that it was a much better intake then what's available, and that still holds true to today PERIOD!

    Read, understand and have an open mind to what the people are asking.
     
  19. brad chevy
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    would this work?off of 327 and I agree the victor jr. is not what you want to run .:cool:
     

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  20. I pulled this running 283 out of my 66 Chevy C10 to put in my 32 Ford sedan. Since it was already a runner I bought an HEI and this old Weiand intake for 50 bucks a piece. I may change the valve covers and put the old vent tube in later. But, then again... maybe not. ;) I love the look of this old intake.

    Whatever you do buy a dual plane and NOT a single plane intake. Single plane's don't work well on mild motors.
     

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  21. falcongeorge
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    Yes, you are in fact wrong. And yes, you are missing something. Go talk to the guy at Oddys that built your engine. Ask him about running a Victor Jr on a stock 283, and ask him about Splash Zone A788, Devcon, Manley Miracle Seal and other two-part epoxys. :rolleyes:

    Oh yea, and JB Weld IS a two-part epoxy. Its sort of like the "Wal-Mart" version of the ones I have mentioned above.
     
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  22. falcongeorge
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    The Tarantula came out around 1970, the Scorpion followed that in around '74, I will do a little digging when I have time on the weekend, and post documentation. Think the Victor Jr. came on the scene around '78-'79.
     
  23. tjet
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    Look for a Weiand WCVSQ
    The Edelbrock C3B & C4B will also work & give you the vintage look you are after

    Here's a photo of the one I just sold

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  24. bbc 1957 gasser
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    that's what i was thinking that would be good on a 355 ci and up not a stock 283 ..beside's they never made a old vic jr it came out in the 90's
     

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