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New Excelsior Bias Ply looking RADIALS

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kail, Nov 16, 2009.

  1. Kail
    Joined: Jul 7, 2007
    Posts: 828

    Kail
    Member
    from Austin, TX

    PRICE UPDATE..

    Via email
     

  2. Don't forget the tube!<TABLE width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD>KR-16 500R16/700R16 TR-15 RADIAL TUBE</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="30%">SKU</TD><TD id=product_code noWrap>85366</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2>Options </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR><TR><TD width="30%" height=25>Quantity</TD><TD><SCRIPT language="JavaScript 1.2" type=text/javascript><!--var min_avail = 1;var avail = 51-1;var product_avail = 1000;--></SCRIPT><SELECT id=product_avail name=amount> <OPTION value=1 selected>1</OPTION> <OPTION value=2>2</OPTION> <OPTION value=3>3</OPTION> <OPTION value=4>4</OPTION> <OPTION value=5>5</OPTION> <OPTION value=6>6</OPTION> <OPTION value=7>7</OPTION> <OPTION value=8>8</OPTION> <OPTION value=9>9</OPTION> <OPTION value=10>10</OPTION> <OPTION value=11>11</OPTION> <OPTION value=12>12</OPTION> <OPTION value=13>13</OPTION> <OPTION value=14>14</OPTION> <OPTION value=15>15</OPTION> <OPTION value=16>16</OPTION> <OPTION value=17>17</OPTION> <OPTION value=18>18</OPTION> <OPTION value=19>19</OPTION> <OPTION value=20>20</OPTION> <OPTION value=21>21</OPTION> <OPTION value=22>22</OPTION> <OPTION value=23>23</OPTION> <OPTION value=24>24</OPTION> <OPTION value=25>25</OPTION> <OPTION value=26>26</OPTION> <OPTION value=27>27</OPTION> <OPTION value=28>28</OPTION> <OPTION value=29>29</OPTION> <OPTION value=30>30</OPTION> <OPTION value=31>31</OPTION> <OPTION value=32>32</OPTION> <OPTION value=33>33</OPTION> <OPTION value=34>34</OPTION> <OPTION value=35>35</OPTION> <OPTION value=36>36</OPTION> <OPTION value=37>37</OPTION> <OPTION value=38>38</OPTION> <OPTION value=39>39</OPTION> <OPTION value=40>40</OPTION> <OPTION value=41>41</OPTION> <OPTION value=42>42</OPTION> <OPTION value=43>43</OPTION> <OPTION value=44>44</OPTION> <OPTION value=45>45</OPTION> <OPTION value=46>46</OPTION> <OPTION value=47>47</OPTION> <OPTION value=48>48</OPTION> <OPTION value=49>49</OPTION> <OPTION value=50>50</OPTION></SELECT> </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>
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  3. Jess H
    Joined: Oct 14, 2003
    Posts: 102

    Jess H
    Member

    Let me quell some of the rumors going around.

    The Excelsior Stahl Sport Radial is a STEEL BELTED RADIAL tire. They will be made in the USA. We will have 20 sizes that range from a 5.00R16 to a 5.50/6.00R21. These tires are designed to have the narrow bias ply profile, but will be built in a radial construction. They will be U.S. DOT and European ECE approved. Prices will start at $189.00 for the 500R16.

    We unveiled this tire at SEMA and the response was very positive. We are taking orders now and will have tires beginning in January 2010.

    Sizes:
    5.00R16
    5.50R16
    6.00R16
    6.50R16
    7.00R16
    7.50R16
    5.50R17
    6.00/6.50R17
    7.00/7.50R17
    5.50R18
    6.00/6.50R18
    7.00R18
    5.00R19
    5.50R19
    6.00R19
    6.50R19
    7.00R19
    6.00R20
    6.50/7.00R20
    5.50/6.00R21

    Thanks,

    Jess

    Jess Hoodenpyle
    Vice President - Sales and Customer Service
    Coker Tire Company
    1317 Chestnut Street
    Chattanooga, TN 37402
    1-800-251-6336
    www.Coker.com
     
  4. Kail
    Joined: Jul 7, 2007
    Posts: 828

    Kail
    Member
    from Austin, TX

    Jess are they tubeless?
     
  5. These must be different from the radial section:

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  6. Jess H
    Joined: Oct 14, 2003
    Posts: 102

    Jess H
    Member

    Kail,

    They will be tube type.

    Jess
     
  7. Beef Stew
    Joined: Oct 9, 2008
    Posts: 1,253

    Beef Stew
    Member
    from So Cal

    don't forget that coker is an alliance vendor!
     
  8. What would the cost be on a pair of 5.00x16s & a pair of 7.00x18s - with tubes?

    JH
     
  9. Jess H
    Joined: Oct 14, 2003
    Posts: 102

    Jess H
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  10. cruzr
    Joined: Jan 19, 2006
    Posts: 3,127

    cruzr
    Member


    Jess, How do the Coker Classic Radials stack up against these???
     

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  11. Captain Chaos
    Joined: Oct 16, 2009
    Posts: 652

    Captain Chaos
    Member
    from Missery

    Has anyone looked at the GoodYear 's they have the diamonds in the white
    I saw them in Lousiville, it's a wWW radial with a supposed to be special tread design for older car W/o PS .
    , was about $200 each from Lucas tire ,I cannot find them anywhere else though
     
  12. Jess H
    Joined: Oct 14, 2003
    Posts: 102

    Jess H
    Member

    Cruzr,

    The Excelsior Stahl Sport radials and Coker Classic 16&#8221; radials aren&#8217;t meant to compete with each other.

    The Excelsior Stahl Sport radials will be available in a much broader size range. In addition they feature a more aggressive tread design and will be speed rated. The 16&#8221; sizes will be &#8220;H&#8221; 130MPH speed rated and the 17&#8221; up will be &#8220;S&#8221; 113MPH rated.

    Jess



    Jess Hoodenpyle
    Vice President - Sales and Customer Service
    Coker Tire Company
    1317 Chestnut Street
    Chattanooga, TN 37402
    1-800-251-6336
    www.Coker.com
     
  13. Chaz
    Joined: Feb 24, 2004
    Posts: 5,016

    Chaz
    Member Emeritus

    I saw the tires at SEMA and they looked awesome! I know its a fair amount, but its probably less than 350.00 -400.00 total over non radials. Not too bad really.
     
  14. cruzr
    Joined: Jan 19, 2006
    Posts: 3,127

    cruzr
    Member

    Jess, Understand they are not menat to compete, my concern is we{32gal} and i just bought a set of the Coker Classic Radials in blackwall to try and overcome the inherent problems with bias plys, We havent driven them yet , but several guys on the Hamb run them and have said good things. I hope we didnt "jump the gun" and now that this product is coming out not have the drive we had hoped for. Your opinion on this would be appreciated. Or if you prefer, email me privately at

    [email protected]

    thanks, Randy
     
  15. Kail
    Joined: Jul 7, 2007
    Posts: 828

    Kail
    Member
    from Austin, TX

    Jess,
    Don't mean to bombard you with a ton of questions, but are there wear ratings for any of the tires you sell, ie: the firestone bias and these radials?
     
  16. Roothawg
    Joined: Mar 14, 2001
    Posts: 24,601

    Roothawg
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    Have they ever found a suitable match for the Coker blackwall radial? They offered them in 16's. But they are too big for the front. Anything smaller to match, for the fronts?
     
  17. cruzr
    Joined: Jan 19, 2006
    Posts: 3,127

    cruzr
    Member

    they come in 5;50x16 for the front and 7;50x16 for the back, thats what 32gal got
     
  18. Jess H
    Joined: Oct 14, 2003
    Posts: 102

    Jess H
    Member

    Roothwag,

    The Coker&#8217;s are only available in 16&#8221; sizes, 5.50R16 to 7.50R16.

    The Excelsior will have a broader size range.

    Jess

    Jess Hoodenpyle
    Vice President - Sales and Customer Service
    Coker Tire Company
    1317 Chestnut Street
    Chattanooga, TN 37402
     
  19. Beef Stew
    Joined: Oct 9, 2008
    Posts: 1,253

    Beef Stew
    Member
    from So Cal

    I'd like the same info please.
     
  20. Jess H
    Joined: Oct 14, 2003
    Posts: 102

    Jess H
    Member

    Beef Stew PM sent.

    Thanks,

    Jess
     
  21. cruzr, the ones you got have a better bias 'look' IMHO, assuming that's what you're after. I know plenty of folks who ask about those "cross plies" and the 5.50, 7.50 combo on 16's works well.
     
  22. gas pumper
    Joined: Aug 13, 2007
    Posts: 2,957

    gas pumper
    Member

    not often does procrastinating have a reward.

    I have been waiting to change from the 16" firestones to 17" and was going to use the Excelsior bias tires. But haven't gotten around to painting the wheels and ordering tires.

    I'm glad I waited now.

    Thank You, Coker Tire for this.

    Frank
     
  23. cruzr
    Joined: Jan 19, 2006
    Posts: 3,127

    cruzr
    Member


    Yea........ Jess from Coker took the time to email me and give me the assurance i need. Coker is a top notch company!! I will be buying another set for my coupe shortly.
     
  24. gnichols
    Joined: Mar 6, 2008
    Posts: 11,355

    gnichols
    Member
    from Tampa, FL

    This is good news. Hopefully some harder rubber, too? I will have to ask Santa about another set of rims and tires then. Gary
     
  25. rodncustom
    Joined: Sep 24, 2007
    Posts: 1,313

    rodncustom
    Member

    I used them and LOVED them!
     
  26. hdv32
    Joined: Jun 25, 2002
    Posts: 110

    hdv32
    Member

    Has anyone bought a set of these yet, if so, what has been your experience? Did they balance well, did you use tubes, how are they wearing.
     
  27. swanwaco32
    Joined: Feb 7, 2005
    Posts: 148

    swanwaco32
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I just put 4000 miles on a set going to LA and back and love them!!!!! John Swander
     
  28. Malcolm
    Joined: Feb 9, 2006
    Posts: 8,036

    Malcolm
    Member
    from Nebraska

    Bump.

    I'd like to know if anyone (Jess H?) knows the treadwear rating of the new(ish) Excelsior Radials and the Coker 16" radials.

    This rating would help me decide between the two tires. I've read (in this thread, even) that the Excelsior bias ply tires are a softer compound and don't last too long. Are the Excelsior radials the same?

    I plan on driving my car alot and would like a set of tires that will last more than 15k miles. At least 30k would be more like it, especially with the replacement cost involved.


    Thanks,
    Malcolm
     
  29. Jess H
    Joined: Oct 14, 2003
    Posts: 102

    Jess H
    Member

    The Coker Classic 16” radials have been out in the market for several years. Our experience, both personal and with customers, has been very positive. We have them on a ’32 Ford and our ’52 Ford shop truck and they have performed well. I know several HAMB members that run them too. They carry a Uniform Tire Quality Grade (UTQG) of 400 for treadwear.

    The Excelsior Stahl Sport radials are new. We do have them on a ’32 Buick Schafer 8 and they perform really well. They are designed with more performance oriented tread and I think they will wear a little faster than the Coker Classics. The compound is different from the Excelsior Comp V tires. The Comp V’s were speed rated “V” or 149 mph and the Stahl Sports are “H” or “S” depending on the size.

    Thank,

    Jess

    Jess Hoodenpyle
    Vice President - Sales and Customer Service
    Coker Tire Company
    1317 Chestnut Street
    Chattanooga, TN 37402
     
  30. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
    Posts: 8,488

    noboD
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    Jess, do the Excelsiors require an inner tube?
     

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