Ohio speeders WATCH OUT !!!!!

I got pulled over for doing 70-71 in a 65 zone, he just looked at me and said you went by me doing 70-71 like I wasnt even there, I said you cops let us do those speeds all the time he said sir the speed limit is 65 and then he proceeded to write me a ticket for no seat belt, lol

 

Thank god I drive a kustom. Low and slow........

 

Several years ago, I had a restored O/T green '70 C-10 with a matching canvas bed cover. I got followed, then flanked, then pulled by PA's finest on my way to NY. The reason? A cracked windshield - they kept driving beside and behind me until they found a "reason" to pull me. I politely explained the crack was not in the line of sight, and met the requirements of NC inspection (which was new), to which he explained "you're in PA now.."

The cop proceeded to inspect the truck, the contents under the cover, and even crawl underneath the truck looking for the frame vin which was covered in undercoating and a little oil due to a main seal leak. When he stood back up, he looked at his hands, then at me, then at the cover...and proceeded to wipe his hands on it! He eventually let me go with a cracked windshield "warning ticket".

It's times like that I wish I had ridiculous amounts of money just so I could screw with the cops!

 

just keep speeding and play dumb .... blue lights are bad

 

The economy has forced city and towns to create more income for police protection and what ever else. Alot of money is wasted in government. I know. In my area of Ohio they are picking up speeders left and right. I rarely ever speed. Think about it...
If you are going 15 miles to your destination. A 15 mph increase in average speed will only save you two minutes. If you safely make it. Most speeders have no patience and are not driving defensively. type A???
I am the safety director for our village and am in the process of acquiring camera survelance for speeders. Not to make any money.. to slow down the 50 mph speeders in our 25 mph zone. The money will be earmarked for police protection. Save your speeding for the strip hotrodders. PJ

 

I can see where the fuss is for this law - when you leave the judgement in the hands of the police, it's too easy for the law to be abused. Trained or not, police are people too, and not all of them are good or even qualified for their job. Like the asshole who wiped his hands on the bed cover a couple posts back. It only takes one bad one to give the rest a bad name - and give you a headache that lasts for weeks. That's why I was halfway serious when I suggested we might need cameras in our cars. I've been on the bad end of too many less than honest cops for my taste.

Any more I try to find a parallell back road if possible and use that. Reason being when cops have tickets to write they're going to go to places where there's enough traffic to find people to ticket, not sit on some country road that isn't even striped and sees maybe half a dozen cars in an hour. It also gets me out of the traffic - the highway can be pretty annoying, it seems like whether I go 65 or 75 I'm either being passed left and right or having to swing out and pass slower cars left and right. Sometimes I do it just to see what I can see, too, never know when you'll spot some old car sitting - I know where a '40 or so Ford panel truck body sits I've meant to ask about for about five years now.

 

Any car that looks like it's going 100mph when it's parked is just plain fucked

 

...And to make money. Cities NEVER, EVER pass up an opportunity to generate revenue, no matter what their justification may be. Their is a small one-square mile suburb here in Oklahoma City called Valley Brook. The speed limit is 40. The only industry in Valley Brook is one scrap yard, eight strip clubs, and the police department, which for a population of about 400, has EIGHT cops, brand spankin' new cop cars, and a full weekly muni court docket of "speeders" doing 41 in that 40 zone. Public safety, my butt. It's "revenue generation". Any "public safety benefit" is purely coincidental.

Oh, and on your 25 mph speed limit. That seems artificially LOW for that stretch of road if you have all those 50-in-a-25-zone speeders...woundn't it be more logical on YOUR part (since you are the safety director!) to perhaps RAISE the speed limit to say, oh, 45??? It would seem, if you have such a volume of traffic doing 50 in that 25 zone, that the street is indeed better suited to a higher speed limit. Or, perhaps, you are more interested in generating revenue with what amounts to a "speed trap" speed limit so that you can fatten your village's coffers with speeding fines, and therefore justify the purchase of said cameras? Public safety vs revenue generation. Raising cash trumps yet again.

 

isnt there an 80 percentile law?

these 1 mph over and 5 mph over tickets could be fought with that rule..

something along the lines of, if 80% of the traffic on that road drives at a certain speed (above the posted limit) the speed limit on that road can be advised and possibly changed to match the 80 percentile rule..wont help thise who had sped in the past on that road but it might help the future drivers that are getting into predatory police action just for revinue on these speed trap zones.

I have but a few speeding tickets on my licence , all of them back when i was much much younger..Im alot older and alot slower, now a days
but the predatory way of the "speed trap" to me just seems very un American, and not in the name of anyoness safety..

these "gotcha" hide and pounce deals are not promoting safety..if anything they are making it unsafe..take a 55mph road and for no reason cut the speed in half or less in a short distance and with little signage..just screams illegal, and Un American to me.

friggen Nazis

 

Most drivers just pay the ticket so the estimating system will work ok.Protest it if you feel the ticket was unjust.How many here got a ticket for speeding and were driving the speed limit? I bet not many.And how often are you speeding and don'r get caught? That would be alot.
Bottom line is...your "right' to drive is not a right but a "privledge" granted by your individual state.No where in the Constitution is your right to drive protected.Normal speeding tickets are a violation,not a crime,it's a different deal and you're not exactly innocent till proven guilty.

 

Call 'em what they are...the Random Revenue Enhancement Patrol.

 

No one is saying driving is a right. Entrapment with speed traps and similar tricks/tactics is wrong, no matter how it's justified. There are plenty of places in ALL states where speed traps, quotas, and the like are utilized to the fullest extent possible. And, yes, plenty of people get pulled over for alledged "speeding tickets" for the mere crime of travelling through that particular speed trap at that particular time. And, even if the judge finds the "speeder" not guilty, the person still has to pay the court costs for the RIGHT to defend oneself from an unjust ticket. Either way, the law wins in their never-ending quest to bring money into the insatiable; and in their eyes, bottomless, government trough.

 

I live in one of the largest counties in Georgia but we only have a mile or so of interstate that cuts one corner. Somehow the county has three cars available to keep us safe by being there.

 

I agree with you 100 percent,but speeding tickets are all to often a slam dunk in the eyes of traffic courts.Just another cash cow with a bullshit story in the eyes of the court.
I got caught once in a speeding trap in a small town where the speed limit changes so quick and the cop is right there.Nothing I could do,had to pay.Back in the 70's I got a ticket for reckless driving after outrunning a cop car and getting caught a few hours later.Could have lost my license for that so I lawyered up,cost big money then,200 bucks.I have no idea what the lawer did but we had a trial and when the arresting officer got on the stand he changed his story and said he didn't get a clear ID on me or my car,a lie,he did see me.The lawyers musta had something on this cop,the case was dismissed,lack of evidence.

 

Ohio has ALWAYS been a Nazi state. The Gastapo is incredible. Their legislators are some of the worst liars I have ever had the displeasure of speaking to.
Having spent 2 years there I can truthfully say I am GLAD I got out intact.
To the handfull of "law and order" types that revel in it there I say good for you...
but just you wait till they find the way come after YOU.

 

Ahhhh, NO you do not need ODOT # for a trailer even if it has race car signage on it!

You do need ODOT #'s if your truck and trailer are over the weight or length limit which would also require a CDL.

When do I need a Ohio CDL instead of my regular Ohio Drivers License?
A Ohio CDL is required if you operate any of the following CMV's . . .
1. A vehicle with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than 26,000 lbs.
2. A vehicle towing a unit with a manufacturer's GVWR of more than 10,000 lbs. when the GCWR exceeds 26,000 lbs.
3. A vehicle used to . . .(a.) carry 15 or more passengers (excluding the driver), or (b.) carry (15) or less people (including the driver) when carrying children to or from school and home regularly for compensation.
4. A vehicle carrying hazardous materials in amounts requiring placarding.

 

That won't do anything for a vehicle over 26000# combined, you will still get a ticket for not having a CDL or ODOT #'s.

 

One area in Michigan I try to avoid driving through is Redford Township.... To make a long story short, I got another ticket there years ago just seconds after I got done paying for one at the courthouse. Man, that burned me up! That was pretty much my last ticket that I got in '96 er '97..

 

That is what requires you to have a CDL (which I have).

I'm not sure how that applies to RV's.

The problem is the DOT numbers they want on the vehicle towing the trailer. Almost any person hauling a trailer with a vehicle in it is over the 10,000 pound combined weight.

The "Not For Hire" has no Legal standing.

Truck is a 2007 Ford Extended cab pickup, trailer is a 28 foot enclosed car hauler, truck weight is 6350, trailer is 4950 empty and registered as a gross vehicle weight of 9990 pounds

 

I'm sure we still have some problem jurisdictions here in Georgia--focused more on generating revenue than safety, and I know we have our share of incompetent judges (many of whom are not lawyers) running the courts that handle traffic cases, but it's not as bad here as it was 40+ years ago. Georgia used to be full of rackets like the one just over the line at Benton TN. Of course, Interstate highways were a major factor in putting a lot of them out of business or at least cutting into their business. We had a governor back in the '60s, Lester Maddox, who was a white supremacist/segregationist bufoon, but I have to give him credit for one good thing. He pushed the attorney general and GBI to go after some of our worst speed trap operations. They really made an example out of Ludowici and Long County, which was at the time rated by AAA as the worst speed trap in the US. Some law enforcement people and a kangaroo court judge got prison time. That used to be right on the main east coast route to Florida. Now that I-95 has taken away all the through traffic to Florida, about all that goes through there is local traffic. Alabama cleaned up some of their worst ones as well. Glencoe on US 431 just out of Gadsden used to be a notorious speed trap, but the state cracked down on them in the early '70s. Fruithurst AL on US 78 near the GA line used to be another real bad one, but the opening of I-20 took away most of the through traffic, so they're pretty much out of the speed trap business.

 

Nice to see these assholes don't only exist down here.

They've lost a shitload in the Fin crisis and are using YOU to re fill their coffers. Its a turkey shoot - anything goes and they'll get it too and use "safety" and "the law" as a reason.

Nothing new there...except that now with the technilogy available, its now EASIER to fleece you.

Hold on...its gonna get a whole lot worse trust me.

Rat

 

This will be 80 replies and we haven't heard about driving the speed limit, or less, (yea, a couple) to avoid all of these hassles. Of course this is withstanding Rustsynewyorkers usual in depth,insightful contributions.
Someone did point out the fact that speeding will usually only save you a couple of minutes as a rule as somewhere during your journey your bound to get stuck behind someone going slow and negating any time advantage. It's that old "beat the system" that causes most of us to speed and it's the hardest influence to overcome.

Frank

 

Ok,

I speed when on the highway(who doesn't?), if I get caught fine (three speeding tickets in 26 years of driving).

But to say that it only saves a few minutes....

If I average 90 mph on a 900 mile trip then its 10 hrs away, if I travel the speed limit (65) then its 13 hrs and change. So yes it saves me time. And in Ohio any ticket price is based on speed such as 66-77 is 100 fine, 78-85 is 120, and any thing over 85- 130 is 130 dollars, so if I'm gonna do 85 I might as well do 100+ same dollar amount and the time I save is greater.


BTW my best time from Middle Ohio to Jacksonville, Fl 10hrs 15 mins. Longest little over 13 hrs. I'm a guy and I keep track of those things weird huh?

 

Being a retired truck driver I agree with what you have said "speeding will usually only save you a couple of minutes". Keeping the wheels turning is what counts.

The problem is the speed limit could be 65, you could be doing 60 and still get a ticket. I have gone through may truck inspections, if they want to find something they will. I once took a brand new truck and trailer (just picked up from the dealer) through an inspection, was held there an hour and a half, and finially written up for a loose air hose connection that when they "wigled" (pulled hard on it) it it leaked air.

 

Don't blame me, I voted for the Porn Star. Mary Caerey, I think.

 

WOW. That is no good. What the hell is estimation of speed a anyways?? That's pretty scary.

 

I'd be interested in hearing if these speed estimating classes spend much time considering things like the differences in perception based on the angle of observation, compensating for distortion from road heat, and situations where their observations are likely to be flawed.

Keeping in mind, of course, that these are the same guys who, in a highly-trained well-organized group, busted down the door, cuffed and forced to the ground an innocent man and his daughter, and then ran away with barely an apology, when they all failed to read the address on the mailbox and went to the wrong house.

 

Patrick,
You're making alot of assumptions. Just because I am part of the system.. how little it may be.. doesn't mean we are out to make money on speeders. The sole reason for the Camera survelance is to slow traffic in a downtown business and tourist district. Signs and pedestrian crosswalks are not working. 85% of the traffic through this area are aware of the safety issues. Don't think the area is wide open. Its not. Most small communities can't afford police protection. That is why people speed. They know small towns can't afford speed monitoring. Our community will be the smallest in the United States to have this Camera survelance. When it saves the life of one pedestian it will be worth calling our town a "speed trap". I hope that reputation does stick. We can't afford police protection... The money generated will make our little village safer. Try fighting cameras. You'll lose. If you don't abide by the speeding laws. Then you will suffer with high insurance and fines.

 

Hell, In Hamilton they have a unmanned Ford escape that sends you a ticket in the mail, and they park it when your traveling down hill! Joke!