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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kieran, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. millrat
    Joined: Jan 30, 2010
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    millrat
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    from Central MA

    Love the stance...she looks ready to pounce!
     
  2. kieran
    Joined: Dec 30, 2008
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    from San Diego

    i have no idea what your talking about

    but on another note, is it necessary to put a k-member in or are there any real advantages? ive been thinking of doing so after i shorten the ladder bars if their is enough room.
     
  3. modelacitizen
    Joined: Jun 24, 2006
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    It certainly couldn't hurt to put a k-member in there. Probably should. It'll stiffen up the frame to deal with the torque and give you a mount point for a driveshaft loop too. I'd also serisouly consider remaking those ladder bars in the rear. Make them triangular so the converging point at the end of the triangle is right where the forward frame attachment is. Couldn't hurt to make them longer either.
     
  4. kieran
    Joined: Dec 30, 2008
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    from San Diego

    a little more progress...

    got my driveshaft back from being made so i made the hoops

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    i also did some trading+labor and got a 3x2 setup. woohoo!

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    i still need to lower the grill shell a little bit and i'd like to get a longer one since the one i have is chopped 4.5 in. it looks like it needs to cover the axle more...

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    Temporary roof

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  5. What kind of master cylinder are you using???? BTW, The car is looking great!
     
  6. kieran
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    from San Diego

    its a cnc pedal and master combo. they are local here in san diego and are usually used on dunebuggies.
     
  7. scootermcrad
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    Kieran!!! Looks GREAT!!!!!! I love it!!!!! I should have kept better track of this build! Stoked for you man! Now get off the HAMB and get in the garage! You need this done for school!!! :D
     
  8. kieran
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    from San Diego

    haha. thanks man! im shooting for may 16, but my garage won't be finished for another couple weeks. It'll be close!
     
  9. ot0_m0t0
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    Good job. looks great. Does the subfloor need to be so strong?
     
  10. kieran
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    ill take that as a compliment. :) im not really sure but it can't hurt! i still have a lot more to do on the subfloor though.
     
  11. 60'shotrod
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    Lookin' GOOD Man!

    Nick.
     
  12. Tommy R
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    Very nice looking and I love the stance! I was wondering what you decided to do about the control arms. Also, shouldn't the frame mounts be in double shear? Anyway, great looking build so far...
     
  13. kieran
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    from San Diego

    double shear?
     
  14. HellsHotRods
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    Do you ever think about cleaning the metal (grinding off the rust) before making your welds? Just curious.
     
  15. that just gets in the way of the picture taking time man!:rolleyes:
     
  16. kieran
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    from San Diego

    haha exactly. but when its important i do, i just dont think about it sometimes. ill try to be better. after all its only surface rust!
     
  17. Flying Tiger
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    Looks awesome man
     
  18. Tommy R
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    Yeah, I see a lot of control arms/traction bars on hot rods in single shear so it may suffice, but I won't build mine that way. Below is a diagram I found on the web illustrating the difference between single and double shear.

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    The upper is single, the lower is double. Imagine your traction bar is the piece that has the arrow pointed to the right and your chassis mount has the arrow(s) pointed to the left.

    Here's a link that has a bit more info., including another diagram and some light reading. ;)
    http://www.roymech.co.uk/Useful_Tables/Screws/Bolted_Joint.html
     
  19. kieran
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    from San Diego

    hmmm. so you are suggesting that i somehow have a bracket on both sides of where the heim mounts to the frame rail?
     
  20. Tommy R
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    Basically, yeah... There's a few ways to do it and I'm sure you can come up with something. But that being said, I see a LOT of vintage style hot rods with arms mounted in single shear. Coming from a racing and offroad background, I'm used to building stuff stouter than it needs to be, so maybe for a lightweight hot rod the hardware most people use is sufficient in single shear. If I ever want to run slicks at the strip I want to know my junk won't rip apart so I'm planning on going double shear with everything.

    Also, the longer your mounting points are from the axle centerline, the less force is applied to the bolt under accel/deceleration. So the whole single vs. double shear discussion becomes less critical with longer arms. Nonetheless, I don't want to risk it.
     
  21. Evel
    Joined: Jun 25, 2002
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    Dude that thing is looking kick ASS!! Sorry I been meaning to get back to you on the Floors..been really busy latley.. I'll dig up some pix for you.. Shoot me your email..

    Keep at it you on the right path for sure..
     
  22. kieran
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    Thanks! no worries, but the floors should be done by tomorrow. thanks anyways though.
     
  23. scootermcrad
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    This will be covered in your Mechanics of Materials class, Kieran! ;):D Good stuff!
     
  24. kieran
    Joined: Dec 30, 2008
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    This weeks updates!!

    i built the panhard bar

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    got the floor skeleton just about done

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    p.s. the driveshaft isnt in all the way, but it does fit center in the hoop.

    and i fixed the grill shell situation by flipping the radiator upside down(thanks scott aka scootermcrad)

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    don't worry its just leaning on the waterpump for now

    next on the agenda is to address this...

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  25. modelacitizen
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    Keep pluggin away. You'll get there!
     
  26. kieran
    Joined: Dec 30, 2008
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    kieran
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    from San Diego

    not a whole lot of visual progress, just a bunch of little things like rebuilding the brakes, rearend work, etc. but i got to move it home last week.

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  27. blitz
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    grumpy looking lill thing, good looking car you have there.
     
  28. 510madmav
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    510madmav

    whoa! that coupe's looking good.
     
  29. kieran
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    kieran
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    from San Diego

    "grumpy looking" thats a new one. ill have to remember that.
     
  30. SlmLrd
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    SlmLrd
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    from DAGO

    looking GOOD!
     

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