Weiand cast in china

I agree 100% ,,, with you .... I re-cycle rebuild parts and machines ,, if i pick something up and it says made in XXXXX ... i put it down. I make my whole family nuts about purchasing anything made off shore,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but we go down this path often ...it takes a turn and it's over .....its gonna happen sooner or later

 

True, Bob, true.............But these post usually turn into big pissing contests with, ( no offense), every expert on the world economy, business, and any other chicken shit useless fact that they wish to interject into the discussion, that MAY incite the ire of others, and then the spew begins to get a political slant..........then, guess what happens????

If folks give a shit where stuff is made, find out before you buy............If you find out after you buy,lesson learned...... don't come on here looking for somebody to sympathize with you and to "wipe your runny nose".

 

The sad part is US manufacturers have sharpened their pencils in an effort to keep more biz here... my local foundry can sell brake parts to the OEMs within pennies of the cost of Chi-Com parts... but they can't force the manufactureres to buy there stuff.

I also know of a small foundry that will cast very small runs of parts at competitive prices...

25 years ago I dealt with the Taiwanese when I was a partner in a racing souvenir biz... there were less than a half dozen US companies making cloisonne jewelry and they were pretty smug about their business's. It took a month to get a sample of a new design and 90 days to get an order made. the Chinese got me a sample in three days and shipped the order next day air... I could have my product in 10 days. Yes they were cheaper... but we bought from them for their service. Many US companies now do the same... we have learned how to compete.

 

That's it. Not politics or greenies or unions. Bean counters and bosses who couldn't pour piss out of a boot but know how to please sheep-like investors long enough to get their bonuses.

 

All American made products will eventually be made overseas, it's part of the destruction of America. That way everything you buy sends the money away from here. It depletes America's wealth and sets all citizens back to dead even broke and even needing Credit to live on(30% unemployment/38Million Illegals).
The New World Order says that all Car Manufacturers will collapse and then the Metal Industry will collapse leaving nothing left to save the Country. I have over 200 books on the subject and how it works and there's alot of Info on YouTube. The result is acceptance of the Micro Chip or starve.

 

It is pretty simple. U.S. corporations are not happy making a profit. It has to be a grossly obscene profit or its not worth it. Paying a U.S. worker $20-30 and hour cuts that profit. China is the answer. Remember years ago everything was made in Japan? But they got greedy and China was there nice and cheap. Soon they will get greedy and India and Pakistan are waiting in the aisle.

We are totally to blame. We want cheap parts. Don't expect $30 an hour quality from a $2 an hour worker. Particularly from a worker who probably has no idea what he's making. And couldn't care less.

 

Very well stated;thank you. You have just summed up the problem. Too bad only a few get it-a lot of this crowd does,fortunately.

 

Usa!!!!!!

 

I guess it should be me that get this thread closed, but I said it 35 years ago, it don't matter how cheap you can get something made overseas, if nobody has a job, you can't sell it here anyway...


the new robber barrons have sold our children's futures, and everything our forefathers fought for...


sad to see our only legacies be sold out by some greed hungry whathephux...

funny thing is, they'll never live to see what they have wrought, and the worst thing is...



they don't care...

 

Its not politics! Just plain economics. I dont blame the chinese because they are just trying to survive as we are.

 

Those "sheep- like investors" putting their money at risk is why the business can exist in the first place. You willing to let someone use your money with no return, or possibly even loose it for you? You wouldn't? Neither would they.

Bob

 

I found something interesting the other day. A company closed here, sold a part for 18 dollars while made here, now being made there the same part is 30 dollars. Go figure that one out.

 

well again a I say put it on the car and run it,,and if it works fine,,then what tear it off and just through it away ?? Cause it has china written on it??

 

Amen Dawg,
let your parts store know, make them order the USA made part( if one is still available) and pay the extra 2 bucks.
If we keep buying the cheapest possible crap. thats what they will make.
most of the time the cheap junk lasts half as long as the real thing anyway.

 

The greenies and government meddlers and unions are equally to blame; you bet your ass they are.

 

It is amazeing how many people responding to this post don't know that eldelbrock has a foundry in the USA. They do all thier casting in house.

 

Just another case of "The NAME goes on before the QUALITY goes in"!!! Remember when Ford Motor Company had it the other way around? I have a standing deal with a local metal recycler to save me ALL aluminum intake manifolds he gets; he makes a BIGGER profit, and I get cheap intakes to sell for more. He's Korean, and out to make as much money as he can. Some of you might want to give it a try also; aluminum intakes, wheels, and sometimes even valve covers. What he does'nt sell outright gets recycled by foundries. Butch/56sedandelivery.

 

I have a large collection of old hot rod magazines from the early 60s. I was amazed at how much stuff cost back then. Some of the parts cost the same then as they do now except wages were way lower back in the day. I'll have to read some of those ads and post some examples.

 

G'day, A friend of mine was running a Weiand Stealth intake on his 350. Warped and had to be surfaced twice. Replaced it with another Stealth and after it warped he replaced it with a US cast and machined Edelbrock and has not had another problem. Just for giggles, we busted (technical term for sledgehammerred) the first Stealth up and you would not believe the porosity of the casting. No wonder they have no structural integrety or heat resistance.

 

thats why i buy only pre 64 parts, they may not work either but at least im not paying for something who no americans but stockholders profit from! fuck corporations n anyone who has stuff made in another country should move there! same with unions and anti socialists, communistists, republicans, democrates, men , women, children, and anyone driving a prius!!!!

 

i'm mostly gonna keep my thoughts to myself on this, but it truly is a money issue with politics being played (trade deals and the like, i.e., nafta, cafta and such) to get the cheapest deal. overall politics aren't the culprit.

 

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Actually, I thought a lot of the newer Edelbrock
stuff was "Hecho En Mexico". I think most or all
of their stuff is "Machined In The U.S.A", but
some or maybe all of their castings now come
from the land "south of the Rio Grande".

Mart3406
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Edelbrock has one of the most up to date foundries in the world and they not only make their own stuff but contract to cast a lot other products as well

Frank.

 

I thought so too, once. Events have have proven differently. I got burned on a stock that everyone including the financial publications talked up as a must buy. Turned out the company lied about their ability to produce their product in quantity and they were cooking the books besides. My $25 a share stock is worth about $2 now. Google "Enron" and Worldcom" for more egregious examples.

Baaaaa.

 

Not for me it has never been a plug and play with china parts.
Mostly it has been a try to make it fit and spend a lot of time to make it work.
Thats how my build started and i turned it around
I started buying old parts and new stuff from the usa
and some parts still might need a bit of tweakin but the quality allows modification.

 

Walk into a Walmart, Bargain Dump, etc. because you are poor and think that is all you can afford and walk out with a pink slip for you own job down the road. People duped into believing they need all this cheap crap just so they can lose their own jobs and then become even more desperate for the bottom of the barrel garbage. The irony of the whole thing is the people who end up suffering the most are mostly the ones playing into the cycle. Here's a hint folks, buying something cheap you don't really need is 100% waste of money, not any kind of savings. If all you can afford is 25 cent sodas, drink free water instead. You not only save 25 cents, but are healthier and save money on that too. $1 underwear, save the buck and wear the old ones a little longer and take care of them. Need a hot rod part you can't afford, make you own instead of buying cheap junk. That's traditional. Folks didn't have any choice back in the day, but we do now for better and worse. The cheap and easy choice can be a vicious cycle that has a far higher price than just the sticker price. Far too many of us just take the cheap and easy option. Maybe time to slow down, reevaluate priorities and what is truly important in life and apply ourselves in a different direction. Global trade is here to stay and the Chinese manufacturers are only going to get better and cheaper. Not sure it isn't past critical at this point, but in the meantime, just go to local stores and restaurants and support people who you think are doing a good job and maybe things will take care of themselves or at least come back to help you the long way instead of stabbing you in the back.

 

Heeeey! This computer I'm typ'n on is from CHINER! On a serious note, China is on the verge of a worker's revolution with unions, increased overhead, and green policies shoved down their throats. I believe that soon Chinese parts will inevitably skyrocket in overhead,cost, and price. On the flip side, if their quality is not on par with US (or other) competitors, they will no longer be competitive. Non-politically speaking...

 

The Chinese products aren't even that cheap. It's just there aren't alternatives in some cases. I was working in Home Depot a while back, they where selling pocket knives for $10. The cost on them was .62.

 

Assuming this is a true example and don't doubt it likely is; so Chinese are asked to make something super cheap, do it for 62 cents and then Home Depot takes it and tries to sell it for $10. So who is most to blame here on that example? Yep, you guessed it, the American Company Home Depot. They could have maybe bought a $5 US made knife and sold it for $10, but better for them to get the 62 cent knife instead and would be foolish not to really. The people who need to go to Home Depot and buy the $10 knife are the same ones likely to lose their jobs because they bought the $10 knife at Home Depot. And because they are most likely to lose their job, they are forced to go to Home Depot instead of the local yard and pay a couple bucks more. Next time go to the local yard and buy only what you need and don't buy what you don't really need to save money - buy smart, not cheap.

 

Here's a huge surprise..
I recieved my new "american" racing wheels.. Has america all over the box.. But,a sticker on the wheel that said "made in china" wow.. Can't quite figure out what's wrong with our country.....duhhh