I am trying to get a title for my 29 pickup in Illinois. I have a bill of sale for the body and frame, and receipts for all other parts, no vin or serial number. I was sent a packet of papers on how toget it titled. First it must be complete and running. An appraisal, an NSRA inspection, a bonded title sales tax on the appraised amount and then a state inspection is required before a new vin is assigned. Has anyone done this in Illinois . Don't suggest any title service . They are not acceptable in Illinois. The state police contacted a friend when he tried to use papers from Broadway Title.
I did this years ago, and it worked well. Is there a specific problem with the instructions?? Your insurance agent can get you a surety bond, cost was quite minimal as I recall. Cosmo
This is the only way in your situation in Illinois! a title with a project is almost a must anymore in our wonderful state! And don't let anyone fool you the process is not easy plus you cannot have the vehicle appraised until it is complete that way they can collect sales taxes on the complete vehicle but if you purchase components and pay sales tax keep track I think you can deduct that from the amount you owe either way keep receipts or BOS on everything that goes into the car they may ask for proof! I will never buy another vehicle without a title as long as I live in Illinois. My advice is follow the directions closely or you will not get a title. I know of people who have been trying to complete the process for months and months and still don't have a title. Illinois Secretary of State DMV is a royal ^%$&^$*&%*. Good luck to you!
You just gotta love the first socialistic state of Illinois. The only state where Governors can rob people blind and we cant drive old cars with out jumping through hoops of burning fire.
Has anybody tried to title your project as a specialty build in Illinois? It is one of the options listed at the DMV website and doesnt require you to bond your vehicle.
Doesnt title bonding require that you dont sell your vehicle for three years? That is where my problem is as My father and I build hotrods for a living and then sell them after we enjoy them for a summer. We have three cars sitting outside because of this latest fiasco with the state titling. How did the bonding work for you and what is required as the dmv site is rather vague? Thanks. Derrek
You are not the first!! Mass taught them how to legalize extortion. You have something Mass doesn't have. You have a process. We are SOL.
Iowa is no better boys, I said "I bought a car with no title" They said "you can't do that" Best option is to find a donor car with a good title and numbers IMO.
I'm going through the same process in MO. Sounds like we have the same process here. Bonded title for 3 yr and have to get it insured for 1 1/2 times its value and all that. I've been filling out the paperwork the last couple days and it's a clusterfuck.
I went through the bonding process and I am not aware of any restriction on selling the vehicle, the bond drops off the title after 3 years and if you post a cash bond the money is returned after 3 years, the bond just protects each owner until it expires. The vehicle must be complete (not just a pile of parts) then it required an appraisial and a title bond for 1 and a half the appraised value, all of this with the application is then submitted to the DMV. Then wait for them to question and very possibly reject your application, needing additional information. But all in all the process of bonding a title was not near as bad as the process of obtaining a title on a specalty built vehicle. The people I spoke with in Springfield when I had problems were very helpful and actually seemed to want to help. But by all means don't try pulling the wool over there eyes with a title service or bogus title they are questioning all titles and I think all titles from Alabama are kicked out due to some fraud?? It stressed me to the max dealing with the Illinois DMV and they now have field inspectors going around our area checking vehicles, Vin numbers and Titles to verify they are legit!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the info Ocool25. The Secretary of State inspectors have pretty much been by every hotrod shop in the Peoria area and have given a few guys a boat load of crap over old bodies laying around with no title or bill of sale.They have confiscated titles from cars that have been registered three years back and they used title services out of state from New York and Alabama's Broadway Titles. I think every piece of vintage tin in my area has gone into deep hiding.
I guess my question is why make it so hard or involved? Why not run a check to see if it's stolen or has liens against it and call it good?
That would make too much sense and the government wouldnt be able to score thousands of your dollars to use for three years and then give back and charge you tax on it.Socialism in action now playing in Illinois.
It's all about the cash the state is wanting the tax revenue if they register the vehicle before it is complete they loose tax revenue and if they register it as a vehicle over a certain age the tax is only $25 so they are doing everything they can do disqualify these vehicles and make them be appraised at a higher fee. It has little or nothing to do about verifying the vehicles legitimacy. Lets face it Illinois Government has proven its self to be pretty corrupt not to mention Broke so every attempt is made to gain revenue. I just hope I get a chance to transfer to another state between this crap and their stupid gun laws high taxes and crappy infrastructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you have a model a frame, it has the vin# on the drivers side, just in front of the cowl. If the former owner could aply for lost title.
Not a bad idea but pretty much a long shot first you would have to get the vin traced, then track down the owner and hope they are still alive then hope that they are willing to help you! What are the chances??? most of the old tin has been sitting idol for decades!
The bottom line is it's worth the additional $$$$ to get a good clean legal title and be sure to verify the VIN numbers!!!!!!!!! the DMV will even if you don't. I have heard of inspectors in Illinois going to shows and checking VIN tags and registration. Don't stamp your own frame or tag either they are wise to that and checking!
Dunno why everyone keeps complaing. Title transfer $65.00,antique plates $30.00 for 5-years. Whats to get upset over?? Oh wait,it`s the swapping of titles and vins and getting caught in the process is what people are complaining about.
No.............. It's finding a cherry body and frame and getting pissed when you have to stand on one leg, wiggle your ears and have the dot tell you to go fill out some more paperwork. Not everyone tries to screw the system.
I bought a cherry 1935 International woody body and no title. I will have to bond it for its appraised value or never be able to enjoy it here in Illinois. I dont have the money they are asking to bond the vehicle so it will just sit in the corner of the shop until I finally get disgusted enough of Illinois crappy weather and dishonest legislators and move to a place where it warmer all year and you can cruise all the time on a bill of sale.
we used Broadway title in 2008 , no problem. Did have to pay Illinois sales tax on declared value at the currency exchange.
Duh! are you reading the same post the rest of us are??? No mention of Title swapping exactly the opposite! Rather how difficult it is to do the right thing!
Mass.is worse,they suck. Even if you buy a car with a good title,you have to pay for a new one. We also has an annual auto excise tax,figured on the value. It's basically a tax on the right to own a car. People don't fight it. One sure way is to vote everyone of them out and let them know why. It would be a wake up call to anyone else who runs for office. but, I suppose I'm dreaming.
All I am saying is that nobody I know that legally obtained a title or legally registered their vehicle has had any problems.
Illinois red flags titles from Broadway and IT . A buddy just went through the process . It took 9 months . Make sure you have bill of sales for the body, chassis and engine with serial numbers. If the numbers are idenitified as stolen you will loose the car. The other pain in the butt is the inspection process . You must have front and rear bumpers , windshield wipers ( not manual) , lights , turn signal s, horn and mirrors. You obviously can take the stuff off after the inspection. And you will aslo need to put up a bond. I'm was in the same situation until recently . I found an illinois title for my car.
So do red flags go off on out of state titles??? I can pick one up for my 28 A truck but I don't want to get burned. Actually I think it is an Alabama bill of sale from this year and not actually a title. I think I am going to continue to look for a clear Illinois title.
I beleive Alabama does not have titles . Broadway Title supplies you with a bill of sale from Alabama with the serial no. on it. Instant Red Flag. International Title out of Nevada will supply you a title for alot more $$$. The cheaper course is the bill of sale ... Red Flag! The state also is getting down on the value of the cars. They are using the NADA classis car value. Once they get a title for registration they may send you a letter stating what they think the car is valued at based on the NADA values. You best have some pictures of your project before you started for proof or you will pay a lot more.
You simply need to get a surety bond from your auto insurer. Unless they changed HOW you can bond a title, this is the preferred and cheap method. Call your insurance agent and ask. Sure you CAN use cash, but why?? Cosmo
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