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'54 235ci inline keeps eating/doming one lifter what to do/what's causing it?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by markanthony, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. markanthony
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
    Posts: 340

    markanthony
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    Hey guys, fell out of love with my daily for a while because everytime I took it out after working on it I had to re-adjust the lifters (hydraulic). '52 Chevy Sedan, '54 Inline (60 over, mild cam)

    The issue started about 2 years ago, no sweat, just a little tick on a very cold start-up (CA standards). I figured that I hadn't done an oil change in a while and that a flush was needed. Did the flush, isolated the offending lifter, took it out, cleaned it up, made sure it was functioning correctly and re-installed. This was fine for another year and then it came back.

    I did the same song and dance, dissasembled, flushed the motor, reassembled and back on the road. On the maiden voyage (again) I drove it for an hour to warm up. Same tick developed, pulled over and re-adjusted. Drove the hour home just fine then about a week later of 20-30 minute drives, the tick came back. Continued adjusting 2 or three more times that week and then shelved it in the garage until I could find the time to take it apart again.

    Picked up some lifters for the motor, made sure they worked correctly, installed. Again, about a week later the un-adjustable tick came back on the same lifter. Shelved again until time allowed me to work on it.

    TODAY:
    So I finally set aside the time to get into the motor, yanked the ticking lifter out and noticed it was domed like the original one I pulled out. It was flat when I put it in.

    Noticed that the cam lobe wasn't centered on the hole where the lifter fits in, thought that might be the problem, yanked a couple of the other lifters and noticed that the orientation of the lobes were about the same but those lifters were'nt domed or worn down.

    So... I felt the lobes, all felt and looked polished, everyother one is nicely oiled, except this back one....feels a bit gritty


    MY THOUGHTS:
    I know I need to drop the oil pan and look at the carnage, clean the screen, check everything out.

    MY QUESTION:
    Have you ever seen a cam dome/eat away a lifter?
    What was the possible cause?
    Is a complete tear down in order?


    Thanks in advance guys...
    Mark-Anthony

    Pics:
    (I'll provide in just a minute)
     
  2. 6inarow
    Joined: Jan 24, 2007
    Posts: 2,363

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    Patrick Dykes hasnt sold or recommened hydraulics in years because of poor quality. I'd consider swapping cams and lifters. This problem is all over the nliners board for a while
     
  3. JohnEvans
    Joined: Apr 13, 2008
    Posts: 4,883

    JohnEvans
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    from Phoenix AZ

    Cam going flat . Time for a new cam and lifters.
     
  4. Da Tinman
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
    Posts: 4,222

    Da Tinman
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    If you just changed the just the lifter and not the cam and lifters when the last one failed the old cam was damaged and wore out the new lifter.

    Change cam and lifters and use the right oil and life will be good again.
     

  5. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 56,085

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    might want to take the engine all the way apart because that metal grit can get everywhere....score the cylinder bores, crank, embed in bearings, etc
     
  6. Da Tinman
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
    Posts: 4,222

    Da Tinman
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    oh yeah, and clean the bottom end out.
     
  7. markanthony
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
    Posts: 340

    markanthony
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    Oh yes, there has to be damage from the flotsam floating around.
    [​IMG]
    When I set the worn lifters next to the "new" ones there's about an 1/8" of material missing...makes me kick myself for just thinking it was a clogged lifter and running it but, live and learn I suppose

    On the hunt for another 235 locally to swap in while I tear down this one and bring it back to life.

    Thank you guys for the help and direction.
     
  8. Da Tinman
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
    Posts: 4,222

    Da Tinman
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    mice ate your spokes.....
     
  9. markanthony
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
    Posts: 340

    markanthony
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    Oh if you only knew...you should see the size of the roaches here along with the neighbors rabbits taking up housekeeping behind my music equipment.
     

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