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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by '59Edsel, Aug 21, 2009.

  1. '59Edsel
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    I tried searching for this, but haven't had any luck. I have a '59 Edsel with a 292 in it. Recently when trying to start it, the starter will spin it the right direction for about a half a second and immediately kick it back in the opposite direction and stop. Any ideas?
     
  2. Is the distributor cap cracked?
     
  3. 51 MERC-CT
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    Sounds like a timing problem.:)
     
  4. '59Edsel
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    Well, a family friend suggested I go out and try to turn the engine by hand using a socket and wrench going in the clockwise direction. I just did that and it spun for a few inches and promptly stopped. It feels very tight and won't spin anymore.
     

  5. milorat
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    Could just be bad solenoid,not keeping it engaged.....
     
  6. oldchevyseller
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    might be hydraulic lock, a weeping head gasket filling a cylinder and you cant turn it over any further, pull all the sparkplugs and try again, see if any have antifreeze in them:confused:
     
  7. '59Edsel
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    I'll go try that right now.
     
  8. '59Edsel
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    Nope, spark plugs are out and still binds. It will go counter clockwise for a bit, but when you head back clockwise it binds.
     
  9. oldchevyseller
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    timing chain might have kinked ,and broke and wont allow any movement more than :confused: that
     
  10. oldchevyseller
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    manual tranny? issue with clutch?

    if not then it sounds like a good mystery
     
  11. '59Edsel
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    Did any of the plugs have a damaged electrode?

    There may be a nut, screw or other foreign object on top of a piston, especially if the car has been sitting for a long time or the carb has been off.

    I'd look at the flywheel/flexplate and see if there was a bolt backed out or too long a bolt in it first though. I don't remember how that starter bolts up but there may be one bolt that is way too long that is contacting something on the flywheel too.

    If it was running before, what did you work on last and work back from there.
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  13. budd
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    stuck or bent valve, pull the rocker covers and have a look, was the engine running fine and then one day you went to start it and this trouble started? a worn timing chain more often then not will jump when an engine is shut off, then when you try and start it again no go, but if the engine was sitting for awhile then a valve could of stuck.
     
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  14. '59Edsel
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    Well basically the story goes:
    Bought it a year ago
    engine ran perfect when i first started it
    started to sputter and stall out one day
    redid the carb
    still won't stay running
    kept trying to get it started and all of a sudden it does what it does now.
     
  15. Lobucrod
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    I hope you didnt drop anything down the intake while the carb was off. My ex bro in law dropped one of the nuts that hold the carb on down the intake and didnt take time to fish it out. It made its way into a cylinder and locked the engine up.
     
  16. '59Edsel
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    I hope not. I did block the intake while I had the carb was off and tried to take it slow so nothing would fall in.
     
  17. budd
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    if something made its way into a cylinder you should be able to fish it out with a small magnet on a wire, i know i have seen many cylinder heads and pistons with marks from screws and nuts rattling around inside.
     
  18. '59Edsel
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    Strange, the engine turns perfectly fine now, and the starter stopped doing what it was doing.
     
  19. JohnEvans
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    CHRISTEEN has left the building !! LOL
     

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