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Head bolts and over heating?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sammyg, Jun 15, 2009.

  1. sammyg
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    Ok, say if one forgot to re torque his head bolts after break in, would this cause cooling issues? At idle I run at 190*, perfect, and it can stay like that for half an hour and not over heat. but once I get going, it gets 200...210...220, ok shut it off!
    I've done everything, flushed it, new t stat, so on. Engine is a flathead 4 cyl Willys Go Devil.
    I heard that as the engine would get going exhaust gasses would poke past the gasket and possibly over heat the water. Plausable?
     
  2. JohnEvans
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    Yes it is possiable. Re-torque the head now ,have a radiator shop test for combustion gas in cooling system [Block Chek] . Nothing there check to see if distributor advances are working , rod out radiator. Fan belt slipping??
     
  3. sammyg
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    Fan belt was slipping, replaced and tightened, not slipping anymore. Radiator is a recore. I'll take it to a shop for a block check, though it was magnafluxed when rebuilt.

    I retorqued the head and I'll give it a shot tomorrow at high noon when it's hottest here.
     
  4. sammyg
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    Oh, and, thanks!
     

  5. JohnEvans
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    And like I said make sure the dizzy advances are working. A stuck macanical advance will cause heating and low on power ,also retarded static timing.
     
  6. sammyg
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    It's pertronix but I'll check the timing advance too. What do you mean retarded static timing? Now, I did hear that it would be a good idea to retard the timing since I'm higher altitude. True? 5000 ft.
     
  7. plym49
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    Gee, if your timing is retarded that would cause you to run hot under load.
     
  8. sdluck
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    Higher altitude you advance timing ,less air needs more timing.
     
  9. sammyg
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    Set timing to stock... Gee, more like checked it. And it's still running hot. 220.
     
  10. JohnEvans
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    Er; Another thought is the temp gauge correct, accurate ???
     
  11. sammyg
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    Holy shit. I must be dumb, I didn't check that, drrrr!!!! thanks, I'll check it somehow :)
     
  12. sammyg
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    Ok, do old vehicles like to puke over fluid? I've stopped it most of the way with a new radiator cap, but it likes to puke a tiny bit, maybe half cup of fluid. Normal?
     
  13. hrm2k
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    If you are running an electric gauge, run a jumper wire from the sending unit to the gauge and see if that helps. I thought I had an overheating problem on my T but it turned out to be the wire had shorted and was giving me false readings.................just another idea
     
  14. sammyg
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    It's a standard unit, not electric, BUT! I compared it to a meat thermometer and it was off. 10-15 degrees high. So when I was running 200 it was 190, 210 200, so on so on.
    It's still running a bit hot for my tastes though..
     
  15. choppintops
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    Possable the thermostat is sticking or air trapped in the system? Our truck has been running fine around town. Took it to Kingman a few weeks back and the guage was reading HOT. Went to Kingman again last week, but before I went, I put in a new stat, and before I put it in, drilled two 1/8" holes in it to help purge out trapped air. Changed nothing else, even recycled the fluid. Truck hit the low end of "normal" and sat there the whole time like a fat man at a buffet.
     
  16. REJ
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    As far as puking fluid out, I have found that most of the older radiators do not need to be to the top with liquid. They will kind of "seek" their own level.
    Try running it with a little less fluid in it and see if it still pukes.
    Robert
     
  17. sammyg
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    Robert, I think it's found it's own level now :) No more has come out. That takes care of the boil over issue. But now for it running 210 220, going off of your post Choppin, that's exactly what I did, new T stat with 3 1/8" holes in it to burp the air. I'm wondering if it should be a 160* stat instead of the 180 I put in it.
     
  18. choppintops
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    Did you check the new stat by putting it in hot water? Some of this new Hencho en China stuff is junk str8 from the shelf.
     
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    To quote a mostly wise man.
     
  20. sammyg
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    Hehe!
    Boiled it and it sure did open. Stock t stat was a 150 though, could that be it? These engines were meant to be idling in bumfuck with no air coming over them for hours on end, for the military.
    Thanks!
     

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