water in oil and oil in water what are the causes??!!??

in my 53 ford customline someone sometime ago in a galaxy far far away put a 250 ford straight six in it. i pulled the radiator cap an blam a milkshake.......pulled the oil filter the same crap
tonight i ran a compression test and all the cylinders are the same
80psi.....is that low or normal for a 250 ford motor?? the motor is a 71.
what else besides a headgasket would cause the oil water mix?
thanks for the help

 

head gasket, cracked block.... Jason

 

busted block,busted head or head gaskets..take your pick.

 

A bad radiator can cause this if it has an oil cooler built in.

 

nope just a tranny cooler

 

its not reddish so i cant suspect radiator

 

bad trans cooler will not affect the oil in the crank case,(only the radiator will show it) by you saying you pulled the filter on the engine and found this crap in there too..i would say Head gasket, or broken block or cracked head

 

Yea pull the heads, check the gaskets, then rotate the assembley and check the cylinders. If it's neither it's deeper in the block!

 

when i pulled the plugs none were soaked in water
i use my video scope and checked each cylinder and saw no clean piston
they all had the same carbon buildup

 

was the car flodded (in deep water) at some time in its life?

 

It's not a leak into a combustion chamber, so you won't see anything in there. It's the head or block cracked, or a blown head gasket.

 

i honestly coulnt say

 

That wouldn't explain oil in the radiator.

 

ok yall im off to pull the head off see yall tomorow for an update
thanks for the help
god i love the hamb

 

maybe you have a flood car from Katrina?

 

has it been overheated? or sat in cold weather below 32 with just plain water?

 

ahhh crap..your right..its late time to go to bed

 

i would have to say yes
it was waay out in the hill country

 

HOW MUCH water in the oil?

Is it actually liquid under the oil? or is it just a tan or milky goo buildup inside some vent passages?

If you don't actually have a liquid layer under the oil in the pan, you might simply have a super-moisture condition due to too many short errands without enough time for the engine to heat up and boil off the moisture.
You would be amazed at how much steam is created by a cool running engine that hasn't warmed up yet.
Enough cool short runs, especially on a high mileage engine, and you can get quite a lot of water churned into the oil.



If that's the case, an immediate oil change and a few 20 mile trips could clear it right up.

MAYBE......


OOPS, I read the letter again. It does sound more serious.

Long ago I cleared one of those up by using some "heavy duty block sealer".
It doesn't always work in all cases, but it may be worth a try to get you by for a long while.

No matter what you do, change the oil right now. You may prevent bearing damage if you keep the oil good and clean.

 

I use to own an 85' ford crown vicky LTD. The oil always looked milky in it. It was my grandmas car she bought new. Never did figure it out. I just lived with till I sold it years later. My uncle has same problem in his 78ish mustang pace car. Must be a ford thing. Neither of us found any of the above mentioned symptoms and he had his mustang gone thru by 2 different machine shops.

 

Sounds like a head gasket to me. At least that's where I'd start.

 

i think that's all been said....maybe we need to start a poll

 

More than likely a head gasket, other than that probably a cracked head or block.

 

Then it might not be worth trying to find out what happened just look for another engine. You could spend alot of cash and time trying to locate the problem if it is not visible onintial teardown..just my 2 cents

 

Sounds like time to upgrade. Pull that boat anchor out and put a V-8 in! Get a fox body mustang for a donor then you could have a 302 / 5spd combo. I have seen some good runners for under $1,000. Pull the motor and trans and part the rest. You could have the whole swap done and be into it for less than a grand.That would be way more fun to drive and it would still be all Ford.
My two cents.

 

i just pulle the head off it took an hour
when i pulled that heavy f*&ker off i seen a NEW gasket and no thermostat
so i am going to take the head to get checked out at the machine shop
here a pic

 

good luck

 

Wait, it had a new looking gasket? If you haven't had the car a long time I'd say someone sold you one with a warped head from a past overheat. They could easily have used the thickest gasket available when they found the problem to make it run long enough to sell it.

Reason I say that is that I used to build a few of those family of engines way back in my Mustang days and a warped head from overheating was not uncommon.

 

new looking........no a new gasket

 

Probably a crack in the head or bad head gasket....