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Victoria Milling Machines?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Duke, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. Duke
    Joined: Mar 21, 2001
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    Does anyone know anything about these machines? I just picked one up and know nothing about it. I found a little bit of information on the web. Does it use standard tooling? What would you recommend as a good book or DVD to start using this machine (I have never used one).
    Thanks
     
  2. Vertical or Horizontal spindle ?

    Pics might help.
     
  3. Duke
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    Vertical, I don't have it home yet so I don't have a picture.
     
  4. straycad
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    Most mills use What they call Collets to hold the tooling. It is a tapered "tube" that has threads on the top, and a certain size whole in the bottom that the tool goes into. on mine, the collet and tool fit up into the mill, and a large bolt pulls the collet into the taper... squeezing down on the particular tool to be used. ( for example, a drill chuck, a end mill bit, ETC...) The taper is what is important. My taper is an "R8". R8 is a common size or standard for milling machines. I am new to this about 5 years ago myself. If anyone wants to add to this or correct me, feel free. I am by no means a Machinist. But, I do know that the tooling is the most expensive part. I bought some cheapy stuff that works pretty well at Harbor Freight. Hope i helped somewhat...
     

  5. Jethro
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    I think you are gonna be buying Dumprat a lot of beers to give you some lessons!
    Have a look at this site.....http://www.jjjtrain.com/vms/library.html
    Post some pics when you get a chance!
     
  6. Glen
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    good advice on the R8 stuff.

    What size is it? 9x40? how many horses?
     
  7. fordcragar
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    from Yakima WA.

  8. stirlingmac
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    I served my time, 25 years ago on a Victoria Universal mill. They are a great machine. I liked it so much when the company closed down, I bought it and all it's tooling. I sold it about 4 years ago when I was in a cash flow crisis and still regret it.
     
  9. Duke
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    I have some more info on the machine. The table is 12"X60" and the number on the machine is MS B-13. It looks like a 6 HP motor....that is going to be an expensive phase converter. Thanks for the link Jethro.
     
  10. JohnEvans
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    from Phoenix AZ

    That is a biggy 12X60 . But you should be able to use a "Static" type phase converter as a mill has a very small starting load unlike a big lathe without a clutch. You should be able to get a static converter for that size motor for less than $300 US.
    Once you figure out what collet the spindle is start looking for tooling. A 3 inch inport boring head and a 9-10 inch rotary table are good starts. Ebay is a good place for picking up mills etc. A hand tightening drill chuck is also nice ,either with the correct shank to fit the mill or a streght one to fit a collett. Another neat tool to have is a "Coaxial indicator" to allow you to get the quill centered over a hole so you can bore to size ebay again $50-60 .
    Have fun!!
    ebay sellers 800watt & discountmachine are several I've used and have liked the tools.
     
  11. Duke
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    Thanks for the Tips John. I think it is a Delta motor so I am going to have to make or use a rotary converter.
     
  12. Jethro
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    I've got lots of info on making a rotary converter. I made mine and it only cost about $75.00 when the smoke cleared.....(no not electrical fire smoke)....I'll track it down and send it to you if you want.
     
  13. i'm not familiar with a Victoria mill....any pictures yet?
     

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