I bought it off an older gentleman who was sure he could find the papers. Well its been a few months and he is still looking. Any idea how I could pull this off in Massachusetts ?
I am going through Broadway Title. I'll post when it works. It was going to cost 4-5x as much through the state.
I dunno how it works out there, But if its not on the computer file your own lost title with the vin # off the body. say you owned it 15 years and let reg go out the year after you bought it cus it blew up.
I used international title service.Worked great,took 2 weeks for the paperwork walked in the dmv walked out 20 min later with a plate and sticker 3 weeks later had a title in my hand.I think the price is about $175 now and its worth every penny.
in oklahoma you can file a title 42, which is a mechanics lien. i pay a lady $70.00 and she sends me the paper work. takes about a month
There was a post a few days ago about MA - seems they hit you for the "restored" value when you go to register the car, and they hit you for back penalties on it based on the date of the reciept. But it had some title information in the thread too. I think I'd try claiming it was a Connecticut or New York car if it hasn't been registered in more than 8 or 10 years (long enough to be out of their computers) and see if I could get it done with a signed and dated reciept - and date it within a week of the day I went to the DMV. Reason for that is CT and NY don't use titles for cars that old, and MA knows it, and if I remember right according to the post they accept a reciept as proof of ownership. I don't remember if you need a NY or CT registration too, or not. But why spend $175 on a title if you don't need to? They'll hit you on the taxes for enough as it is.
I had a similiar problem with a 63 cadillac a few years ago. Although it's not the most legal way to go, I bought a title and vin from a caddy in a junk yard, and swapped vin tags. I had no problems
Huh? Bill Of Sale In Hand Few Pics Of The Car Get The Vin And And The Guy Ya Bought It From Have Documents On What You Paid(agreed To Pay) Old Lic Plates /tabs Old Insurance Papers ... Go See The Dmv His Excuse Is? Lost Title Bank Owns It (colatteral On Loan) Co Owned With Wife ..ex ...dead . Missing? Lotsa Parkin/moving Violations Repoed Driver License It Was His Property? So He's The Man ... IMPLIED VALUE BRING A CURRENT"OLD CARS PRICE GUIDE"THATS WHAT THEY USE HERE AT THE DMV .. BE READY TO SHOW ITS CONDITION AND VALUE .. ABOVE OR BELOW YOUR PURCHASE PRICE If he Did Have A Title Ever Thats All You Should Have To Do.. If He Won't Go Cuz He Never Owned It ... Well... The Car Is Devalued Some And Now Use Some Of The Other Ideas Here
http://www.mass.gov/rmv/titles/6dup.htm http://www.mass.gov/rmv/forms/title.htm get the form, have the old guy fill it out and mail it in, believe it is the cheapest and the very best way to get a title if it existed in his name they will send a copy and then have him sign that and take it down to the dmv and transfer it, i have had to do this a few times in minnesota and works fine, funny my 60 belair title came back in the guy's exwife name,,, so i called her and she got the money i got the car so the only hitch is if he really had title or it is not in his then you worry about getting a title another way
Now, there's no reason to do that at all in New York, unless you know the serial number is going to come up in use or stolen. New York makes it easy to get a registration. But that's not MA, so I didn't repeat it here.
NH doesn't title older cars either...the registration is supposed to be proof of ownership, but a bill of sale should work too.
In Kansas, you can do a legal procedure called "quieting of title". You'll need a lawyer to basically sue the car in court because the previous owner would not or could not provide a title. You'll need a bill of sale though. It cost me $125 in lawyer fees, and the state sent me a new KS title in my name.
I have a '38 Chev pickup that I bought in 1956. That is me and the truck in the avatar as we both were in 1956. It hasn't been registered since 1963. All paperwork is long gone due to moving a few times, brother throwing out stuff stored at the folks farm etc. They won't give me a title for it. They say "it looks like you're out of luck." Nice place this state. "We are here to serve you." Yeah, right.
There in lies the problem. For whatever reason (totally unknown to me) there was not a VIN number to be found on the car, anywhere. I honestly don't know why, I bought it from an antique dealer, who got it from an estate sale. I tried all the legal shit, never got anywhere. So I got creative!
Well I have a bill of sale, vin number, but Mass is still giving me shit cause even thought the gentleman whom i bought it from was from NH.. he had never registered the car while living there and lost the Mass title. Do you think if I had him get me a NH temp plate and then try to register it in mass with the bill of sale ? I know NH cannot legally turn me away if it was a NH car because NH stops making titles after 15 years.
have him register it. NOT TEMP. He can get a reg with no plates. THEN take his reg and the bill of sale to the RMV. IT works it's how I do it all the time.
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