Register now to get rid of these ads!

There's a MIG flyin round my workshop!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by woodbox, Nov 1, 2007.

  1. woodbox
    Joined: Jul 11, 2005
    Posts: 1,231

    woodbox
    Member

    I got totally sick and tired of haulin my MIG welder round my shop on its trolley. You know, leads all over the floor, can't reach both sides of the car without draggin the damn thing right to the other side of shop.
    So I was at the steel supplier yesterday getting a load of steel for another job and decided to grab some exhaust tubing and do something about it.
    So this is what I came up with!
     

    Attached Files:

  2. woodbox
    Joined: Jul 11, 2005
    Posts: 1,231

    woodbox
    Member

    While I was in town, I stopped by the fencing store and picked up some ready made hinges to swing it on and some small pulleys to run the gas hose and power lead onto the washing line steel wire. The wire is tensioned with a turn buckle.
     

    Attached Files:

  3. i know why ,but why? you sure arnt lazy i can tell you made that contraption but why just not wheel it..
     
  4. woodbox
    Joined: Jul 11, 2005
    Posts: 1,231

    woodbox
    Member

    For the welder to move along the arm I grabbed 4 sealed roller bearings off a skateboard and proceeded to put together a car to carry the welder.
    The main frame is a piece of 1/8th wall 4" box that I sliced in half and whacked some lightening holes into it. 4 holes for the "axles" and some 1" tube spacers to hold the wheels at the end of the axles. I cut some chain links and welded them on for the shackles.
     

    Attached Files:


  5. zibo
    Joined: Mar 17, 2002
    Posts: 2,361

    zibo
    Member
    from dago ca

    I had a similar problem but just swapped bigger wheels on the cart instead.
    cool contraption though.
    TP
     
  6. 51 MERC-CT
    Joined: Apr 5, 2005
    Posts: 1,594

    51 MERC-CT
    Member

    Great idea. Was considering almost the same thing once but was going to use an old garage door opener to move it back and forth with a remote.:) :D
     
  7. revkev6
    Joined: Jun 13, 2006
    Posts: 3,352

    revkev6
    Member
    from ma

    your roller wheels make my butthole pucker. i'm picturing that thing falling on my head in the middle of a nice bead and screwing up my stack of coins! the idea is good, the material just doesn't seem strong enough. 3/16 or 1/4 would have been my min. thickness on that part.

    BTW, how is that thing swinging over your head, less of a pain in the neck than the 6' wires running on the ground?? I think I'd rather step on stuff than smack my head, and I KNOW I would.
     
  8. Roothawg
    Joined: Mar 14, 2001
    Posts: 24,570

    Roothawg
    Member

  9. ORGANGRINDER
    Joined: Jul 28, 2005
    Posts: 382

    ORGANGRINDER
    Member

    i love it....gets it up out of the way too.

    reggie
     
  10. Looks cool, good job
     
  11. TRUCKRODDER
    Joined: May 29, 2005
    Posts: 329

    TRUCKRODDER
    Member

    The local high school has a welding class and they have several in the air like that , very handy!
     
  12. phat rat
    Joined: Mar 18, 2001
    Posts: 4,921

    phat rat
    Member

    I'm with revkev6 looks kinda iffy. Don't know if they still make it or not, but when I had my farm I used what they called cannonball track on sliding doors. It's round with a slot in it for the rollers to move along it. The rollers are ball-bearing equipped. Had some doors that weighed over 300# and never had a problem with this kind of track. Just went and Googled it, look here to see what I'm talking about.
    http://www.cnbhnp.com/
     
  13. NJVadala
    Joined: Oct 11, 2007
    Posts: 179

    NJVadala
    Member

    That's cool, hopefully it doesn't fall out of the air one day. Its kind of like an episode of Looney Toons waiting to happen, but awesome nonetheless.
     
  14. 52RustRocket
    Joined: Nov 3, 2006
    Posts: 263

    52RustRocket
    Member

    "Laziness, the mother of invention"...lol Great idea. Will it reach the whole shop?
     
  15. Abomination
    Joined: Oct 5, 2006
    Posts: 6,719

    Abomination
    Member

    I've had thoughts like this, and I kick myself for not digging through the rubble of that car wash they tore down a few blocks away the other day...

    My idea was to use a car wash boom and longer leads, and leave the welder in a stationary location...

    Here's a fabrication place that sells them, as well as a lot of other cool fabbed stuff:
    http://www.swfinc.com/car_wash/equipment/booms/360.htm

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Granted, they're made for water to go through 'em, but if the pipe used were large enough...

    ~Jason
     
  16. pastlane
    Joined: Oct 4, 2007
    Posts: 1,063

    pastlane
    Member

    In the current issue of Speedway News there is a NASCAR shop setup with all the welders suspended from the ceiling. Supposed to get it all out of the way and total access. My shop is small enough I don't need to wheel the welders around unless I'm working outside.
     
  17. mpls|cafe|racer
    Joined: Jun 18, 2006
    Posts: 1,323

    mpls|cafe|racer
    BANNED

    man, you've got SOME freetime. haha
     
  18. Linken Mfg,in Oakville,had 2 or 3 like that.
     
  19. sweeeet:D
     
  20. MidnightTrain
    Joined: Jun 2, 2006
    Posts: 136

    MidnightTrain
    Member
    from North Ga

    Thats the Coolest thing ever,hahah. Now just find a way to run a separate line to swing you out a beer.
     
  21. woodbox
    Joined: Jul 11, 2005
    Posts: 1,231

    woodbox
    Member

    Thanks for your comments guys.
    The reason for the size/gauge of materials I used on the "car" is to minimise weight hanging off the end of the swing arm. I have been swinging off the car to make sure its safe, and I aint no midget, if you know what I mean!
    As for the comments a bout hitting your head, I have set the machines lowest point above my head height and the dials are all still qute easy to reach.
    The comments on the subject of "Why bother!" I custom build trailers for classic boats as a sideline earner and convenience means speed, and that all means I get them finished quicker and get back to working on the HOTROD!
    Heres a couple of shots of the trailers.
     

    Attached Files:

  22. Flipper
    Joined: May 10, 2003
    Posts: 3,395

    Flipper
    Member
    from Kentucky

    I'd make some safety chains for it (loop around the boom) just in case the trolley fails.
     
  23. Reverand Greg
    Joined: Oct 18, 2007
    Posts: 199

    Reverand Greg
    Member

    every single welder in my new shop is a gantry model with the feeder on a post like the one you made,but the power supply is on the ground ,nice idea though.
     
  24. Frosty21
    Joined: Jan 25, 2007
    Posts: 958

    Frosty21
    Member
    from KY

    There are 4 bearings in two wheels of a skateboard-with plenty of stress put on them, carrying atleast half of whatever the rider ways or a little more depending on how their stance is. Carries around 150 pounds with no problem (about 75 pounds on two wheels?) and a welder can't weigh that much.

    Still, a neat idea-I've yet to get anything rigged up to haul my welder around the garage. Its got about a 5 foot lead and a 4 foot ground-so you have to move it around quite a bit.
     
  25. Mercmad
    Joined: Mar 21, 2007
    Posts: 1,383

    Mercmad
    BANNED
    from Brisvegas

    I first looked at the thread and though..." hmmm,nothing new there,i saw one in a agricultural engineering place about 30 years ago...In New Zealand!! "...:D
    Kiwis can't fly but the welders can.:D
     
  26. HemiRambler
    Joined: Aug 26, 2005
    Posts: 4,208

    HemiRambler
    Member

    Ignore the "why bother" comments. Every damn "shop thingy" I ever made saved me time or effort was worth it TO ME. For thsoe who say "why bother" - well THEY shouldn't bother - the rest of us will enjoy your inventiveness.
    I do share that "not so fuzzy" feeling on the trolley though. Sure it's probably fine, but the "what if" factor wouldn't cut it for me. However I have a simple "fix" (I know it's not "broke") but what if instead of using the bolts with the overhung load you instead used longer fasteners and tied them together. You could weld 2 of them into a 90 degree angle or even take a piece of all thread and bend it into a 90. Or maybe just take a small square of metal and tap it for two holes 90 degrees apart. It'd strengthen it and become your "safety catch" at the same time. Just thinking out loud.

    THAT'S Hot Roddin' - fixing problems with what you got (or can easily get). Real nice job.
     
  27. ArtGeco
    Joined: Apr 6, 2005
    Posts: 759

    ArtGeco
    Member
    from Miami

    I dig it, I hate having shit around my feet.

    Only suggestion is I would make the height
    adjustable, for welding upside down under
    the car and changing wire.
     
  28. woodbox
    Joined: Jul 11, 2005
    Posts: 1,231

    woodbox
    Member

    Geeze Louize you guys, have some faith man! Its not like I made the car out of panel steel!!!.........and after saying that when it all comes crashing down round my ears, I will send some photos from the E.R.

    I have told the kids in no uncertain terms that they are not to use the car for lifting the HEMI out of the pickup..........unless they ask youall first!!

    If necessity is the mother of invention..........who's the father?
     
  29. I did a similar thing back in the seventies, but didn't hang the welder because it was 5 ft. tall. Ran the wiring over the steel fabrication table.
    I also had the cutting torch hoses overhead.
    Here is a picture and that was a frame I was making for a 40 Ford sedan delivery. The table was used during work hours to make trailer signs.
    Never thought about hanging the welder.
    To answer the critics, if keeps you from tripping over cords, and takes the weight of gravity off of your work.
     

    Attached Files:

  30. scottybaccus
    Joined: Mar 13, 2006
    Posts: 4,109

    scottybaccus
    Member

    It was probably 15 years ago that I worked for a collision shop with a brand new Canada Arm equipped welder. (same folks that make the shuttle's robot arm) Big 250 power supply on the wall and a control panel with wire feeder on the end of a two piece arm. With a 10' set of leads, it had a reach of nearly 35 feet. I've always wanted one of my own. I AM that lazy! :)
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.