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Pics of my T bucket chassie

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by NostalgiaT, Jul 7, 2007.

  1. NostalgiaT
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    here is a pic of the tbucket I am building [​IMG]
     
  2. SaltCityCustoms
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    looks like a good start, what style body are you putting on it?
     
  3. NostalgiaT
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    doing a 23 body I have a old Bird body I dug out of a barn outside of KC MO Chatted with the guy that owned bird and it is around 40 years old and was never cut for a frame till I got it.

    Looking for a old coupe body to put on it but the bucket body will work till that happens
     
  4. AstroZombie
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    looks good man, but is that tie bar going to clear your radiator? looks like you got the steering arms mounted upside down...
     

  5. pan-dragger
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    i agree
     
  6. His chassis seems to be based on California Custom Roadster plans, which have been around forever. The tie rod doesn't interfere with the radiator -- there's plenty of room between them.
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  7. NostalgiaT
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    Yea your right on that one Goober they are CCR style arms as is the frame just streched it out a bit my old bird body is 5" longer then the ccr standard body so I streched the main rails 6" and added 4" after the kickup for a little more suppor for the 20" pickup bed I am using. Even with the CCR steering arms and the speedway front end setup the Tie rod sits over the front crossmeber so I have about 10" or so infront of the radiator Plans call for a small moon tank in the future but that is later after this thing is going.
     
  8. Jimv
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    can you post another pic of just the front end?I don't think its going to track right like that.
    Also it should have a Watts linkage on the back, not a panhard bar.
    JimV
     
  9. NostalgiaT
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    well I know the ackerman is a lot closer then a lot of cars I have seen over the years I haven't done the final alinement on it yet but it is real clsoe right now have taken mesurments from the centerline and also frome various mounting points that I know are square to each other. Yea a Watt linkage might work a little better but with only 3-4" of travel that most buckts have the panhard bar will work find. I have used them In more then just buckets with plenty of sucess
     
  10. Jimv
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    the problem is with a T bucket is the narrowness,Just trying t help.
    JimV
     
  11. AstroZombie
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    i see that now. still threw me off a bit! heres a shot of mine, if you look back thru my posts and threads started you'll see a few more build pics incase you need ideas or inspiration....lord knows we all do at one time or another! best of luck man!

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  12. AstroZombie
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    jim, you got a watts on yours? not trying to contradict but mine seems to run great with just a panhard in the rear. do you have a front panhard?
     
  13. Jimv
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    i have a Watts on my rear & just friction shocks in front.I never had a panhard on the back, i was just told that theres not enough distance for a proper "Arc".
    A friend of mine is build a T & he had alot of prpblems with front end "wobble" & he put a panhard on the front.
    JimV
     
  14. NostalgiaT
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    [​IMG]

    Here is a side shot of the car dont have one of the body and radiator mounted on it yet but hopefully later this week
     
  15. NostalgiaT
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    Hey Josh you need a panhard or a dead perch on the front espically if you have Cross steering to keep the bumpsteer down. Not as nessasary if you have a tradtional steering setup Like I do with a reveserd corvair box.
     
  16. AstroZombie
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    i do have a panhard on the front, it runs from the bottom of the perch to the lower right side 4 bar mount. (just hard to see in the pic!)
     
  17. AstroZombie
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    haha, well i got a panhard and no shocks in front! i guess there is more than one way to skin this cat:eek: i can see what you mean about the arc of the rear bar. maybe mine doesnt flex enough for me to notice, or maybe i just chalk it up to the "it's not gonna ride like a caddy" rule, but aside from being a little bouncy on some bumps it rides fine.
     
  18. jusjunk
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    so whats wrong with a panhard rod on the rear ? Watts was designed for sprint cars not t buckets but they tried to place it there..

    Dave
     
  19. AstroZombie
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    maybe the big deal is the idea that when the coilovers are compressed, the panhard is "pulling" the rear end to the side it is mounted from. perhaps a watts link would prevent this "pulling" by keeping the rearend centered.....

    i am running a panhard both front and rear, if it is bad to run a panhard, then i wouldnt know it. it doesnt feel sloppy or anything. i would think the differences would be almost unnoticable.
     
  20. Jimv
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    The watts linkage on a narrow car allows the rear to move straight up & down.
    A panhard does exactly like someone said"it pulls to one side".A panhard travels in a arc so the distance at the top & bottom is differant from watts that travels up & down.
    You can get away with it on a wide frame but on a narrow one theres too much pull.
    JimV
     
  21. budd
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    how long should a panhard bar be on the rear of a t-bucket frame?
     
  22. Jimv
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    mine is only about 2 feet wide so it can't be too long!!
    JimV
     
  23. FiddyFour
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    actually, the watts linkage system was invented in the late 1800's by james watt to keep steam engine pistons moving straight... but whos keeping score?
     
  24. Jimv
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    I thought he was the one who came up with the saying"Up Doc" As in "Watts Up Doc"
    jimv
     

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