OT sort of..what happens with $6.00 gas?

A few guys were talkin about the extremists who were planning to blow up the big Saudi oil refinery the other day. This talk did include beer.but what would happen to this country and world if that happened.sorry I don't usually live on what if's but..

1 who could do extra running around on $6.00 per gallon

2 what would happen to this hobby when alot of us are border line hot rodders

3 what about the manufacturers and retailers of hot rod stuff

4 who could go to events across the counrty like we all do now


I could go on but I'll let whoever give their $0.02 worth. Just querious what the rodding world thinks would happen.



Michigan Rick

 

I'm old enough to remember when everyone thought that the car hobby would crumble when gas hit $1.00 per gallon. Guess what?

 

Nothing... we'd keep driving... heck $3.00 hasn't slowed anyone I know down, and go driving during rush hour!!

We'll pay it... just like we pay nearly $8 a gallon for water and so on....

But if they start using the Ethanol from Corn, we'll have a corn shortage and won't be able to feed our cattle and animals and other starving countries.

 

China. The same people who sell us poisoned dog treats will gladly sell us corn and other biomass.

 

well rick, i will be pedaling my 61 schwinn corvette with apes and a padded seat. and i will be lookin good while doin it . ha ha . mike

 

$6.00 a gallon will be the new lie to get us to pay through the ass for the Canadian crude we're all gettin fucked on right now. Who's fuckin us? The feds and big oil execs. Anyone that can't see it just keep your head in the sand like it is now.

 

I just moved 20% of my retirement fund into oil and gas, so that when it hits $6.00 I'll still be able to afford it.

 

Why, we'll be marching all the illegal aliens across the borders by bus(Canadians and Mexicans) or by air (Europeans, South & Central Americans, Australians, Asians, Africans ), escorting the Muslim population to the newly established camps deep in the Arizona desert (for their own protection when the trouble starts, they'll get used to it), and finally making up our minds who is the King of the goddamn Hill around here, us or them!

 

Thats what gas costs here right now, it sucks but its not the end of the world, you just got to fill up the car with more buddies on long trips!

 

I pay roughly $6.80 now and the streets are fulla traffic

Don't even ask the guys in the UK

 

When I was in high school I pumped gas at a Mobil station. $0.299 for regular and $0.319 for high-test. People said then if gas ever reaches $0.50 a gallon they would stop driving. It didn't happen then and it won't happen now.

 

But we can drive over 2000 miles without ever crossing into another country, or running into the ocean. It's called road trips. That will most likely come to a stop with $6 per gallon gas. I know for sure if that happens I will be driving a 40+ MPG car to work insted of a 25 MPG car I now drive, though I hate the little shit boxes europeans call cars.

 

fuck what a hardship it would be to only pay $6.00 a gallon, right now we are paying nearly $7.50 and its going up by the day, its went up .40c in the last 3 weeks or so.

does it stop people driving - NOPE...

 

The oil companies are testing the public now by saying there is a shortage. I went to a gas station yesterday and they had covers over the regular unleaded pumps. The attendant said they are having a hard time getting the regular unleaded but they had plenty of mid-grade and more expensive gas.

Yeah right! No regular unleaded. The oil companies are just seeing everyone reaction to that little scam before they pull something else.

I only drive when I absolutely have to. But for what I do it works for me. It may not work for everybody else. The bus is a $2.00 round trip for me when I have jobs to do at the movie theater across town. I ride my bike to the post office and everywhere else that I can. The grocery store is 1/2 mile away.

If I had enough money to buy my uncles old house I would have because the grocery store, post office and bus stop were 1/2 block away. Then when I found a regular job I'd only have to worry about getting to and from it. If I could have got on at the post office I would have been set.

 

The difference between the US and other countries already paying big bucks for a gallon of gas is that many of these countries have a centralized health car system that is funded off of the proceeds from the higher prices of fuel.

Here in the US, if you don't have health care insurance, you're pretty much at the mercy of the governement whenever you are hurt or sick. I wouldn't bitch - too much anyway - about higher prices of fuel if it weren't lining the pockets of our PRESIDENT!

 

Well i wouldn't worry about a lot of that happening in saudi...i have been over here working in the oil field for close to 2 years now....with all the security and compounds they have they are well covered....i don't mean security with a stick and large set of keys......bunkers with hummers and .50 calibers on top.......and they suspect you are getting ready to "infringe on there oil rights" they shoot first and find out the story later...they all the air craft and boats anywhere near the rig and if one is out of place all hell brakes loose till they find out who, what ,and when......most places over here i feel safer than i do in US..............

 

Most european countries are not as vast a land mass as the USA and they have passenger trains and subways which with the exception of some of the biggest US cities most of the USA does not. It is very difficult to go outside of a US city without a car. Passenger trains and buses have very few routes anymore, and the old rail beds have been torn up. Brian

 

$6.00? Eh, I'd probably just drive my veggie-oil/diesel truck more often.

 

Un-affordable fuel will have a huge, HUGE affect on "recreational" driving. Everything from hot rods to race cars to 4x4s and Motorhomes.

If people are scraping their money up to get to and from work and pay their home energy bills....something has to be sacrificed. Unfortunately, a certain percentage of the population will no longer be able to enjoy "motoring".

It really sucks for the industries and jobs that are tied into these recreational driving niches. The auto aftermarket, motorsports, RV manufacturing and all the support businesses are really going to be hurt....not to mention the tourism industry.

Hopefully the government hasn't "sold-out" completely and will consider the economic impacts of failing to control energy costs. Maybe it's not too late for a little regulation to come back for the good of the American public.

 

i'd gladly pay $6.00 per gallon if as a country we:

1) required even trade with all other countries-- no trade deficit, meaning if we buy $1 in oil, you buy $1 in something from the US.

2) require a separation of corporation and state-- meaning that highest level elected officials (like the president, etc) shouldnt hold equity or be allowed to accept contributions from corporations they could favor in office.

I really believe that we, as a country, are setting ourselves up to learning a very hard lesson about what will happen when we sell our own country out. We've been doing it for a long time, and it is working on killing small business and the middle class overall. The backlash once this reality is acknowledged will be interesting....

-scott noteboom

 

Energy Glossary
Note: These data are available in spreadsheet format by clicking the ''Download Series History'' link on the previous page (with drop-down menu bar at top).
View History: Monthly Annual
U.S. Conventional Gasoline Retail Deliveries by All R&G (Thousand Gallons per Day)

2000- 35,943.8 2002- 35,990.6 2003- 36,831.4 2004- 36,277.8 2005- 33,692.7 2006- 33,845.5

Updated on 4/10/2007
Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration

Taking any of the above listed numbers of Thousands of GPD, and multiply by 365 days/year....then say, 34,000Kgpd X 365 Days/Year = 12.4 B gallons/year....now take $400 Billion $, divide by 12.4 Billion gallons and you can see the actual cost of Haliburton recovered Iraq oil. $32.25 per gallon...Time we took a look at better fuel use.

 

It costs over $6 a gallon here in New Zealand and I still drive a V8.

 

Don't worrry, with higher gas prices and other costs (inflation) comes higher salaries. With raising the minimum wage, everyone who is not working for min. wage just had their standard of living reduced. Thanks congress! You don't really get ahead, you just get to tread water. The Fed (Federal Reserve Bank) will raise interest rates if inflation goes out of line too far, which will cool things down. It's been done a million times...

 

I'll probably take some shit for this, but $3 a gallon is pretty cheap if you ask me. From what I understand we're always a LOT cheaper than most other parts of the world. It's a limited resource and it only makes sense that prices will continue to climb until there is none left to sell. Saying it's a "scam" or a "lie" just doesn't make sense, it's pretty basic economics. You sell things for what people are willing to pay for them, that is all that is happening here.

That said, I do feel horrible for the people that are/were already scraping by, and now have much higher transportation costs to cover.

I guess in some ways it's about perspective though, in some countries, just having a vehicle is a luxury, but here, it's considered a necessity by most.

 

I recieve a disability check from my stint in the USAF. When I started recieving my checks, they were $185/mo, and I could fill my gas tank for around $40-45.00. Now, five years later, the checks are $225, and the last tank cost me $83.00! (Its a 34 gallon tank).

I'm lucky to see 14mpg around town, and 17mpg on the highway. My truck is 18 years old this year - 3 years older than my oldest son - and has 274, 203 miles on it.

I consume no more fuel now than I did 5 years ago, yet for some reason, my ass hurts a helluva lot more whenever I go to the pumps!

I remember back when the Exxon Valdeez crashed up in Alaska, and gas prices skyrocketed then. Officials speculated that the crude contained in that shop was about 1/365th of the world's supply, yet prices jumped around 20 cents/gallon.

There's gotta be a better fix. Giving incentives to people who buy vegetable burning cars is a great idea - but ONLY if you can afford the investment. My newest car was made in 1999, and has 140,000 miles on it. I'll be better off when I start working this year for the first time as a school teacher, but then still take it in the ass when I have to deal with snotty brats who don't care to learn - all for a measly $32K/year.

Stay tuned. I'll share my real thoughts with you later.

 

When our gas costs $6.00, yours will probably cost $15.00......The cost of crude is the same there as it is here. The difference is in the taxes you pay.

One thing that will probably happen is that there will be fewer soccer moms driving Hummers, Suburbans, and stretched Expeditions to the mall. More parking space for me....(and fewer door dings).

 

i'd by an early sixties cushman super silver eagle scooter and ride the shit out of it. nearly 200 miles to the gallon and it kicks ass to boot. kinda traditional too... I guess.

 

Yeah, the price jump % might be excessive, but I bet we couldn't find one person out of 365 that would be willing to give up driving because the oil was lost. And I don't think it was just the lost oil that cost money, the people buying gas have to pay for that cleanup, no matter who's fault it is. It all hits someone's bottom line.

 

We could drill our own in Alaska if it were not for all of the bleeding heart treehuggers.

 

Anyone ever notice how they actually grease us into halfway accepting the increases?

They raise prices - say 25 cents/gallon for about 2 weeks, then back if off about 10-15 cents/gallon, and it keeps us from bitching so much.

And... anyone's sphincter ever tingle around the holiday weekends? Yeah, I know its a supply/demand thing, but the people it affects most are those on fixed incomes who have no choice but to spend what we have to in order to survive.

I'd gladly pay more money for fuel if I could get away from having to deal with the VA or the Indian hospitals where service is third-rate at best and actually deal with a real doctor knows WTF he's doing.

This hits home with me, as my only choices are to stay home and do absolutely nothing to save on fuel, or suck it up and keep on.