Technical Transmission for Continental Engine

I'm in the process of acquiring a welder with a Continental engine. Is there a transmission that will bolt up to it?

The welder

What I have in mind to build

I'm not worried about speed at all, I'm thinking of a parade vehicle to advertise my business.
Thanks for your input.
Larry

 

Might try a T0-30 Ferguson tractor! They had Continental engines in them, but they were not flatheads! Could be the same…..maybe!





Bones

 

Awesome. Thank you Bones.

Larry

 

The answer is probably.

To the best of my memory these have an SAE bellhousing pattern. You will need to measure a few things to figure out which one.

Here's a good description of the dimensions: https://www.sbmar.com/articles/understanding-bellhousing-and-flywheel-measurements/

For a parade car, an automatic would be best.

SAE adapters to conventional automatics can be had here:
https://phxgrp.com/engine-auxiliary/transmission-adapters/
https://www.hayescouplings.com/products/sae-housing-adapters/

The first site that I provided has enough dimensions that you could have a local shop with a big enough mill make you what you need.

 

Thank you Gimpy.

Larry

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Motors_Company

Dad gave my brother a 54 Willys for a school car that had a 4 cyl cont around 1962. .. he hated that car.
Not cool at the time

 

Don’t thank me yet! Like Gimpy said , but the Continental doesn’t have that bellhousing. It has its own pattern , but there is an adapter that takes that engine to an SAE pattern! I think! Lol





Bones

 

Or just plot the holes of that pattern, and make a Continental to GM, Ford, or Chrysler adapter, with no intermediate adapter.

*And everything I can find on the interwebs says that it has an SAE bellhousing pattern.

 

I was under the impression that the SAE bell housing was a complete circle roughly 28 inches in diameter with equally space bolts. Like what the Allison’s have. The Lincoln welder Continental has a very small bolt pattern on the back of the engine, IIRC! But I am sure there exist an adapter to take it to SAE.




Bones

 

There are no fewer than NINE SAE bellhousing diameters.

The smallest is a 11.25-inch circle.

The largest is a 33.50-inch circle.

 

I knew there were several, did not know there were nine sizes. I am most familiar with the ones that are common behind the medium size gas and diesel engines that use various transmissions! I was just guessing the 28 inch , from memory, I haven’t been into one in years!
But if the OP can get the little Flathead to an SAE bellhousing, he should have some transmission available, But that’s only 1/2 of it, not sure what he will do for a clutch! Maybe the Ferguson!




Bones

 

Kaiser-Frazer used a 226 based on Continental. If the pattern is the same you could use one of their bellhousings. Don't forget to check old Willys pickups and wagons. They often had the 226.

 

Those engines were used in a lot of different pieces of wheeled equipment such as fork trucks, airport tugs, etc. as well as farm equipment. Not normal pick-and-pull stuff, but there's got to be a lot of parts out there...

 

Worthington tractors (garden) used Continental engines under the Red Seal label. I have seen several although most used Model A engines. They have a forum if you want to research it
Worthington tractor - Tractor Talk Forum - Yesterday's Tractors (yesterdaystractors.com)

 

Check older Clark and hyster / Yale forklift from the 80’s on back they used conti engines

some where manusl and same where 2 speed autos or 1 speed autos .


For a parade car would probably work well .

 

While you are searching, Continental engines were also used in boats. I think some of the old Chris Crafts as well as others used the Continental engine. It would be just a forward/reverse trans but it might lead you to a bell housing that would fit other transmissions.

 

That was an interesting read! Thanks.
Larry

 

Looks like an old Lincoln SA-200, which would have more value to be sold as is and just use the money to buy an old car flat head with it`s transmission.
The welder has the magneto and governor to delete/deal with.

 

Older Checker Cabs had Continental engines.The 62 and 63`s that I worked on had Ford style Borg Warner auomatic transmissions .

 

My 29 Durant has a continental motor in it. Running chassis...too bad you are a long ways from here

 

Keep in mind, if you need an adapter, and you either are not a machinist with a shop, or not have access to an inexpensive one, you will have to purchase a pre-made one.

Those are often not inexpensive.

You would need to compare that cost, and any other associated costs with using this "free" engine, against the cost of just using a matched combo.

 

I'd get it running and see if the welder works. I bet it does. If it does, clean it up and paint it, then sell it for a couple grand, more if you can find the top cover and buy an automotive engine.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=Lincoln+sa+200&_sacat=0

 

Larry, Massey Harris Pony used a 1L (61") Continental 4cyl flathead. Trans itself is a pretty ungainly casting though. Mike

 

I just noticed that the exhaust is uncovered, does the engine turn?

 

Or put that in up front and an electric motor up back.

Would cruise the parade just fine!

 

this might be what a Continental SAE bellhousing mounting plate looks like.

https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/163087199303

 

I have an old Clark lift, I’ll snap a pic of what the BH area looks like. Been so long I don’t remember if it’s a 4 or 6 Continental.

 

This is actually an interesting idea. The welder is basically a gas powered electricity generator, correct? Could it be used in it's entirety to power an electric motor to move the speedster around? Either directly, or through a bank of batteries.

If you're just wanting to build a conversation piece/advertising car to use in parades, a gas/electric hybrid made of 75+ year old components would be really interesting and get a lot of attention.

 

Don't see why not, though to charge batteries would be the most sane method, with a motor controller (fork lift style) running the electrical portion.

 

That's how diesel locomotives work, engine runs generator, generator powers electric motors to move the train.