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Projects help! z bar in the way of headers

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Brodbeckh, Nov 17, 2022.

  1. Brodbeckh
    Joined: Apr 22, 2021
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    Brodbeckh

    A month ago i got new headers for my 250 chevy in a c10 not much info i was given about the headers themselves except that they are hedman and the may have been for a camaro. i attempted to put them on but they so close before the collector end hits the z bar what should i do? ive heard people heating up and moving the arm, shaving, or outright cutting and welding it farther away. this is in a 1964 c10 whatever is the path of least resistance tell me
     
  2. saltflats
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    Modify the header or get one that fits that would be the easiest.
     
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  3. 6sally6
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    Easiest...?!!! What saltflats sez.
    Does it hit the actual bar or the arm hang from the bar?
    Dead center or just barely hits it?
    Can ya reposition the Z-bar bracket that goes to the frame? Moving it back just a little...
    Picture is worth a...........(you get the point)!
    6sally6
     
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  4. alchemy
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    Make it a U bar?
     
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  5. Wanderlust
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    Cable or hydraulic are options as well
     
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  6. gimpyshotrods
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    May we please have a picture, or two?
     
  7. need pictures of the linkage and header installed
     
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  8. 1971BB427
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    Considering modifying the Z bar has the potential to change ratios or leverage to the pedal, it's the last thing I'd change. I'd go for either a correct header for the C10, or modifying tubes on this header if you just have to use it.
    As mentioned, pictures of what you've got will help.
     
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  9. jimmy six
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    Dent the header. Friberger proved it doesn’t make any difference.
     
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  10. Brodbeckh
    Joined: Apr 22, 2021
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    Brodbeckh

    Please explain
     
  11. Brodbeckh
    Joined: Apr 22, 2021
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    Brodbeckh

    Atm not the bar
     
  12. I went hydraulic with my car, it was the easiest solution at the time.
     
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  13. Brodbeckh
    Joined: Apr 22, 2021
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    Brodbeckh

    Where can I find cable driven clutch kits
     
  14. Brodbeckh
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    Brodbeckh

    Anyways I’m making a new thread for this on a clutch cable swap kit
     
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  15. gimpyshotrods
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    So no pictures?
     
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  16. Brodbeckh
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    Brodbeckh

    Outta state atm
     
  17. alchemy
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    I'm guessing the header wants to go right through the center of the Z? Make the bar go up and over, or under, the header. Keep the pivots in the same place, but cut the middle out and make it go around.
     
  18. Stan Back
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    Whatsa Zbar?
     
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  19. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    73-87-clutch-diagram-800-13.jpg

    that's what a Z bar is.
     

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  20. gimpyshotrods
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    It also sometimes called a clutch equalizer bar.
     
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  21. gimpyshotrods
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    He as a 250 L6, so the choices may be limited.
     
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  22. squirrel
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    oops! I thought I saw 350 in one of the other threads....

    I'll wait for the pictures along with every one else.
     
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  23. 41rodderz
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    Get the headers for a truck . Passenger car headers are of course different. I have a set of new old stock with stickers still on them . You may or not be as lucky. You also can fab your own set or modified as stated. I haven’t decided if I am going the way of headers, split manifold or stock . Good luck.
     
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  24. gimpyshotrods
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    $273.99

    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hed-69310/make/chevrolet/model/c10-pickup/year/1964
     
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  25. SASROD
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  26. Jokester
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    Time for a 700-R4?

    .bjb
     

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