Technical ***September 2022 Banger Meet Thread - Brr Months***

"B" careful, the "A" FAM kit has a different offset than the "B" FAM

J

 

Comparison A vs B

 

Wondering here, How much vibrations do you guys get with a the stock balanced crank in a B motor? I have heard some vibration is normal due to 3 main blocks... Cam make it worse?

My B motor has some, mid range pretty pronounced, not like it flying apart but it transmits through the steering wheel pretty good, its deff rpm related not wheel and tire. figured Id ask the masses.

Jealous of all those going to TROG. Hopefully they will get an event down here one of these days.

rebuild the steering box and got the leaks finished there, and driving it when its not hot as hell.

 

I am new to a B engine and mine has quite a vibration off idol. I don’t think it’s normal.
I’d like to hear opinions on this as well.

 

Thank you both for your replies and directions as to where to purchase these kits.

Alas, my coupe already has this particular kit installed, as it has a Model A flywheel cover up to the B block. The B model flywheel cover lower half was removed to allow the A flywheel cover to be fitted.

The one I am after is slightly different, as it suits a B model flywheel cover, which I believe is 5/16" narrower than the A flywheel cover, and it has a different bolt pattern.

 

A Southern TROG, now that would be something! Maybe someday...

 

If I cannot locate one, is there any chance I could get you to measure it up for me, so I can make one?

 

More than likely
Just let me know
J

 

Back on the Burtz for me. Ready to get Bored .060" over.

 

It’s really a thing of beauty. I’d like to keep my Model B with a Model B engine.

 

How was the clearances for bearings etc? Ive heard there was some issues there from some others.

 

All good. I have only heard of two instances with clearance issues One of those was assembly error. I follow a couple groups on social media that are Burtz focused. Far more problem free builds then builds with issues.

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Boring a std block .060 over ???? Ouch!

 

@Stovebolt you could make your own out of a section of I-beam. I seem to recall there was an article on making them in one of the Model A club publications.

 

Finally getting back to my bitsa speedster project. 32 motor and gearbox with quickchange rear mocked up. Now I can finally measure and shorten the torque tube.

 

The clearances on my engine ( Ser # 0059) were fine. Rods & mains were .001-.0015, crank shaft endplay set to .003, timing gear backlash .004. We just returned from a 1,000+ mile tour through the Rocky Mountains, driving from Alamosa (Colorado) to Windsor, 302 miles, in 6 hours and 7 minutes, including our gas stops. We also went over Poncha Pass (9,010), Fremont Pass (11,319) and through Johnson Tunnel (11,158), along with the hassle of Denver traffic. We live about 30 miles from Rocky Mountain National Park, and do a lot of mountain driving.
Additionally, our Victoria completed the 2021 Great Race, over 3000 miles. The engine now has over 8,000 trouble free miles. I would recommend the Burtz Engine for all Model A enthusiasts, regardless of how they use their Model A.

 

RPM Nationals this next weekend at Santa Margarita. I hope the participation is better than last weekend's FAST event. I'm NOT trashing FAST (I sent my dues last month) but I had a long drive from Escondido. There were some beautiful (OHV) bangers and cars in attendance.

 

Just checking in really - paint has been my "thing" the past 3 weeks first weekend was a 3 day festival so etch primered everything. Home for 3 days so painted stuff and ordered metal to make my bits to keep the A steering column and box and wheel ,but no advance lever or throttle. Last weekend was at the hot rod drags now just home so got to tidy everything up , wait on my new Harley being delivered and if the weather is good tomorrow I will photograph all my brackets for the 32 engine/gearbox into a 1930 .

 

Land Speed Records The beginning years

I just finished a book that may be of interest to some of you. the title is The Fast Set, written by the British author Charles Jennings from Little-Brown div. Time Warner 2004. It cornicles how International recognized Land Speed Records were established starting in the 20's and follows a number of the first owner/drivers that established the records .Owner/Drivers Campbell, Eyston, Cobb and many more, along with Brooklands and Pendine Sands race courses, are covered. As they out grew their courses, they moved to Daytona and then to Bonneville, did you know that Campbell tried to establish a course on a dry lake in South Africa. The book can be found on Amazon, $17.00 hard back and $4.00 paperback. Very little of American efforts is covered and what is, is sketchy!
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Gotta quick banger question. Will any parts off an 8n tractor motor fit on an A block? Got the motor cause it looks like the trans adapter will work to a v8 3 speed, but wondering about the internals. Was told it was the same motor as in a truck they made for one year only and this was from said truck.

 

No, the 8n engine is more a kin to the v-8 engine.

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Kinda what I was thinking looking at pics. Thanks Dan

 

I think CDO is right, at least my 8n is nothing like a Model A/B.
Unless someone put a Mod A into the 8n. there have been many v8 conversions over the years.

John

 

8n is more of a half a flathead v8.

 

I feel that I ought to apologize on behalf the San Luis Obispo based Santa Margarita Time Trials organizing Committee. The leadership had literally come apart earlier in the year; resulting in little notice and preplanning for the event. Not many folks including participants and spectators showed up. F.A.S.T. sanctioned the event through the insurance. John Cammack and Bob Miller part of the new F.A.S.T. organization brought cars; but had no hand in the organization (and had not been expected to) . John turned the best e.t. for a 1/10th of a mile at 7.92. This was the fastest time we had ever seen at Santa Margarita. Bob Miller was a close 2nd. I'll go watch he RPM event. They can draw a crowd; but nobody knows he times and speeds!

 

I was planning on doing a compression test and leak down. After pulling the plugs I don’t know if should even bother.

 

a lot of oil

 

Dan
I have looked at 3 Burtz blocks and can not remember if the exhaust seats are the only one with hard seats is that the case?
Thank You
Steve

 

Only the Exhaust Valve Seats were hardened on my Burtz block, Ser # 0059.

 

Yes, only exhaust have hard seats...though I'm not Dan