Close to having this thing on the road, getting down to the details. Looking for simple pulleys, preferably new as well as alternator & water pump belts. This is getting tough to solve in a classic way. 32 Ford Roadster 327 Chevrolet engine So-Cal speed alternator bracket (high mount, right side) No other engine mounted accessories Thanks in advance, Scott
I don’t recall if there are different pulleys for things when using a short or long water pump, other than the water pump pulley is different. You’ll only be running one belt though, right? Ie around the crank pulley around the water pump (both fixed positions) around the alternator (adjustable for tension.
Having a stash of GM brands pulleys from 50s - mid 80s help,,, Try 1966 250 6 C10 Monza v8 Novas 6 cylinder models 63-72 non power
Lots of short pulleys stashed in garages...Hambers got gazillions im sure..may make sense to buy new if you got the bucks...
Yes Recommend also , Zips Op will still need afew different pulleys & usually shims & extra gaskets (for shimming purpose) My Zip set up uses different pulley combo then my short water pump set up , crank , water ,alt
Yes, it's a short water pump and yes, only one belt (duh, bow head in shame). Assuming both pulleys only need one groove. Will check out Zips - thanks
Just to refresh my mind, both a long pump and short pump, the belt still rides in the same location, right? It’s just that the depth of the pulleys are different. I guess I mean crank pulley and alternator bracket make no difference?
Not really. The short pump cars ran a flat no offset pulley on the balancer and the alt or generator was mounted on the outside of the exhaust manifold. The long pump cars the alt was further forward on the front of the cylinder head. These ran a dished pulley on the balancer and the belt ran about an inch and a half further forward
Good info, so for @SDS he will need to know what alternator bracket he has, and get the proper crank pulley.
Wrecking yard (good luck), swap meet, or vendors like the previously mentioned Alan Grove or Classic Industries.
I don’t know how that alternator mounts. But there are plenty of reproduction corvette pulleys available
See my opening post - it's the So-Cal one (for heads with no accessory bolt holes) that mounts the alternator up by the right valve cover. I found that speedway makes a set for $87 and Summit sells them separately for around $30 each. Guess I'll try them
I did read it, but as Mark mentioned short v long WPs use different mounts. I don’t know which the Speedway is made for. I guess if knowing that, you could work from there.
Didn't think there was really much of an option with a SBC in a 32. It's a short pump. The So-Cal alt bracket looks like this...
Yup, looks like the same flat balancer pulley and water pump pulley that came on almost every 283 and 327 ever made
What Im saying is Just a match set for a single belt short water pump Application Might not line up for yr set up , there are different death bottom & top pulleys, ( short pump) I Believe the OP is going to run a hood , A Monza V8 short pump will put Alt Between PS valve cover & thermostat, Then it will depend on aluminum intake used & heads , Then if a Zip used different pulleys , (Zip puts the fan more in middle of radiator) then another problem sometimes to pay attention to is lower rad hose to belt Clarence , I Believe Zip instructions have a ""recommendation"" for what year and GM part numbers to use , including aftermarket replacement hoses, One of the short pump I used a 71 Buick 455 water pump pulley
One thing to keep in mind with the short water pump stuff is there's actually a few different depths available on the water pump pulley. I had never run into this problem for the 20 years I'd been fooling around with old cars until the one day I did. Then again on the next car/engine! Twice in a row... Nothing you can't fix with a press, though.
Short water pump, stock crank pulley and Allstar products View attachment 5480619 [ATTA CH=full]5480619[/ATTACH] wp pulley with homemade brackets.
^^^ To wide for 32 ford under a hood, OP probably knows he can make something work sounds like he wants a Direct Bolt on, most of time modifications required.
Water pump uses 3905995 pulley Crank uses 3755820 pulley These are commonly available from all the restoration parts places, fit most V8s from mid 50s to late 60s. Don't overthink it, just put stock parts on, and be done with it.
^^^^^. Squirrel you are knowledgeable man and usually correct but in this situation you have to know 32s , I believe Op using stock firewall , if motor in typical location with sbc on short water pump No mechanical fan can be used, & this is 1 Style short water pump , Will Not fit a 1932 with stock style firewall & radiator in Stock location There are several short water pump set ups from the factory
Here are 2 32s one with short pump Blower SBC , I made , Other 32 with zip & the other 3 32s I dont have a pic of Another zip set up with different pulleys then one in pic, The other 2 32s short pump both have different pulley combination then others All 5 single belt set ups
DDDENNY , I know it can be down , But the one posted in pic of 40ish or later would not work. Not trying to bust out the Op , in his build thread he states " Built a lot of cars , Not a 32 thoe " OP has put together a Nice Roadster ,, I do not think Op going to notch frame , & OP has found out that parts do not just bolt on like Original 32 parts , & has used a 3d printer before making a part, I Would like to have One!!!!! (3D printer) But not For the parts the OP printed out for his 32 roadster ,,, I would 3D print hard to find / rare parts like the Buick Black Out tail lights (41) I think ?? !!
In that pic ,the Alt bracket bolts to top end of head then goes over to a few intake bolts , With out a Zip its almost impossible to use a mechanical fan with stock style firewall notched for PS valve cover & radiator in stock location unless you set your motor very high off the frame. or motor set back about 3 inches Father from front crossmember then most do.
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