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Projects 1949 International KB2 build advice needed

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by _megahead_, Jul 2, 2022.

  1. _megahead_
    Joined: Jul 2, 2022
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    _megahead_

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    Howdy, I have the body for a 1949 International KB2 that I am attempting to restore. However, I am a Welder by trade and have sparse knowledge in vintage truck restoration. My current goal is to get the cab, fenders, hood, grill, etc off the ground and properly installed onto a frame. I have done some research and have come to the conclusion that a S10 frame would be my best bet as far as a frame swap is concerned. As for the engine/transmission problem, I haven't decided yet. Any and all advice is welcome. Thank you for your time.
     
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  2. Okay, but as far as this place is concerned, that is not the right conclusion. Frame swaps are a no-no and an S-10 is the poster child of that. ;)
    Required reading:
    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-h-a-m-b-rules-guidelines.44274/
     
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  3. While a modern frame might be your most cost effective solution .

    not might not be the best bet.

    check the size of your truck and do some math as a larger truck might be a better donor frame.

    I ended up with a 50 ford truck a bunch of years ago I bought at a farm auction for almost next to nothing so I simply had to buy it.

    it was sitting in a hacked s10 frame with fibreglass flip front hood and fibreglass running boards.

    i ultimately purchased an s10 that was running and driving with a v8 5 speed and lowered suspension , swapped all the “cough cough” 50 ford stuff over and painted it got it running and driving well.
    The truck had no ownership so I titled it as a s10 “hot rod”

    fun truck but not my cup of whiskey with all the fibreglass etc. took me a while to sell it , I made money on it , like I said I got it for next to nothing and the labour was all me.

    but frame swaps are not always the best bet in the long run if not thought out properly . Cool truck . Keep us posted .
     
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  4. choptop40
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    you could swap the body onto a running driving 4 door 60S chassis ..frame swaps are ok as long as you use a swap with i belive no later than a 1966 vehicle...be cool to find a early 60s buick 4 door and run that ....good luck'''
     
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  5. Frame swaps are allowed on the forum as long as they are HAMB friendly ones. i.e 29 body on 32 frame, Model T body on Model A frame, etc.
     
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  6. I didn't think it was necessary to point that out. But then again...

    Okay, frame swaps - other than what would have been done with traditional pre 1965 built hot rods - are a no-no.;)
     
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  7. oldiron 440
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    Get an old Dodge frame …
     
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  8. Reidy
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    How would you go with a 1949 KB international frame? It might work for you.
     
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  9. twenty8
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    A good welder could build a frame from scratch to go under it if a hot rod is the intention.
    Now, if only we knew a 'welder by trade'? I have heard that exact thing only recently.....:rolleyes:

    By the way, the phrases "attempting to restore" and "S10 frame" don't play well together.o_O
     
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  10. 41 GMC K-18
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    This is going to be really interesting to see just exactly what frame you finally decide to use.
    My 46 IHC KB-5 has all of the original frame.
    You have a major engineering and fabrication adventure ahead of you indeed!
     
  11. _megahead_
    Joined: Jul 2, 2022
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    _megahead_

    UPDATE

    I was able to find a 1949 IHC KB2 frame which is awesome, but I found out that the body I already have is a 1948, not a 1949. Will this cause any issues as far as fit up or are they compatible? Thank you for your time.
     
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  12. jimgoetz
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    My bet is it's the same or close enough.
     
  13. Terraizer
    Joined: Jul 18, 2006
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    1941-49 K1/K2, KB1/KB2 all use same frame. That fender looks to be a K5/KB5 larger wheel opening and 2 1/2" longer at rear then K/KB1-K/KB2.
     
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  14. BJR
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    Get it titled before you stick a bunch of money in it. If you wait until it's finished, and it comes up as stolen, the law can confiscate it and you are out of luck.
     
  15. nrgwizard
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    from Minn. uSA

    You might find it useful to drop in on any of the Binder forums that still exist. Can help you out, in addition to the hamb. Last I heard, BinderBulletin was alive, don't know if Just Internationals is alive anymore. There are a few more, but I can't remember off the top of my head, & I'm too lazy right now to search. Good project, there are some out there, both nice & the "rusty-shock-crap".
    Marcus...
     
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  16. Weren't there two different wheelbases?
     
  17. 41 GMC K-18
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    @_megahead_
    This will give you a bit of a comparison between the KB5 wheel well size and the KB2, good luck on your build.

    Snippy&Rose (2).jpg 46 IHC 1.JPG 46 IHC 4.jpg
     
  18. Elcohaulic
    Joined: Dec 27, 2017
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    Elcohaulic

    One of the best frames to use is the GM #1942, 1968 to 1972 Chevrolet el Camino. They are very thick with a full box all the way between both front and rear wheels.

    I've found the best drive train for most old cars a seventies, low compression, Chevrolet 454 with 781 heads, Quadrajet intake and carb, Iron single points distributor from a 1960 to 65 Chevy 283 327 Corvette with a CD ignition, Turbo 400 with a shift kit (use the softest shift setting), Hurst Autostick I shifter, followed up with a 2:73 to 3:08 1959 to 1964 Oldsmobile / Pontiac 9.3 rear end.
    This drivetrain will run best on 87 octane.

    Whatever drive train you use, make sure the compression is at 9:1 and runs on 87 octane. I've found newer low compression engines run real strong so long as you don't try to use parts or specs designed for high compression engines.
     
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