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Technical Was this normal? Stacked gasser spindles

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by anthony myrick, Jul 18, 2022.

  1. Never seen that before, seen cut spindles for drop and then seen tri five chevy spindles flipped from side to side with a the steering arms cut/flipped and then welded, but never welded up spindles to raise up the nose.
     
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  2. Moriarity
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  3. Well I be.
    I’ve seen “donks” with em.
    I guess ya learn something g every day
     
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    I've seen it on street freaks, but not real gassers, that I'm aware of.
     
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    There was a spread in one of the mags, maybe Hot Rod Delux a few years back of a '55 Chevy with lot of years and miles on it, maybe NJ or MD. really extended, don't know how the other front suspension pieces held up.
     
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  9. FrozenMerc
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    I would argue that welded knuckles and / or ball joint spacers were more common than straight axle conversions.
     
  10. 62rebel
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    Probably so. That would make reversing the process a shit ton easier if and when you wanted to return to street driving. Plus, you could simply hang them in the rafters until you needed them again.
     
  11. Boneyard51
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    Had some of my friends do that on a 1957 Chevy back in the sixties, but I wouldn’t ride in it!






    Bones
     
  12. blue 49
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    I saw this one at the Rust Revival a few years ago.

    Gary
     
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    Guarantee to break @ 100 miles an hour.
     
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  14. i7083
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    Bought a '55 Chevy roller years ago with raised spindles, but not nearly as radical as some of these!
     
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  15. Had a '57we did that to in high school, also put the rear axle under the springs, loved it.
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  16. blowby
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    Did my Impala out of two pairs of spindles. Not radical, about like the one's Johnny Gee posted.

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    Yup, lots of street cars, but no gassers yet, eh?
     
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  18. 1971BB427
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    I've never seen any of these chopped and welded spindles back in the 60's or even 70's. All of them I've seen were in the last decade or two, and custom built for guys not wanting to go the full route of a dropped axle, or straight axle.
    Back in the 60's I saw many guys using the big C shaped ball joint spacers with taller coil springs that would get the front up 4" easily. Also saw some aluminum triangular shaped that raised the front a couple inches by unbolting the 3 ball joint attachment bolts and using longer bolts through the aluminum spacers, and longer coil springs.
    I personally don't find it any issue, or tough job to do it right and swap in a solid axle up front with parallel or transverse springs. I wouldn't use these welded up spindles if they were free. No matter who welds them.
     
  19. larry k
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    One good high wheel stand should take care of those tall ones, !!!
     
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    This is one of those deals where a good welder can make it happen, but you look at some of these and think, "I wouldn't trust that to be pushed onto a trailer!" And yet somehow, these things manage to hang in there. I can't imagine any inspector, whether State or NHRA, giving any of that a pass. YMMV!
     
  21. Still suprized a 1 pc spindle isn't available for a raised ride height, would be a big seller..
     
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  22. 1971BB427
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    NHRA wont for sure! Welded spindles are never allowed by tech inspectors.
     
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    Oh, maybe they are. Check Hoffman! :confused:
     
  24. seb fontana
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    Tube axle ends are welded so why not spindles? Stress loads would be pretty much the same, have to have faith in the welding.
     
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  25. I’ve seen a lot of fabricated spindles on race cars
     
  26. Mr48chev
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    Most of those never made it to a drag strip except in the spectator parking lot. Cruise night on the Ave is what they were built for.
     
  27. oldolds
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    The first cars I saw with this done to them were from New Jersey. They were at a show in Allentown Pa area. If I remember there were 4-6 of them traveling together. The guy from Radar wheels may have been one of the guys in that group.
     
  28. spanners
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    I'm no engineer but there would be huge differences in the stress levels between the two. The example my engineer for Australian rego uses is holding a sledgehammer straight out by the end of the handle as opposed to by the head. One way puts a lot of tension on your muscles, the other is much easier to support the weight.
     
  29. Kerrynzl
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    Yep!
    Raised splindles would be easier/safer with spherical bearings instead of balljoints.
    You could simply weld on extension tubes and use through bolts.

    [Gussets and raised steering arms not shown here]
    upload_2022-7-20_11-19-18.png

    This example would widen the track width slightly.[not a bad thing on a raised car]
    And the scrub radius remains as-is.

    With a mill it can also be done so the Kingpin inclination and track width are unchanged, but the scrub radius is less [or negative]
    upload_2022-7-20_11-23-41.png

    And with all suspension mods "heat treating" is your friend that's got your back!
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2022
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