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Projects Ford Y block stick to C4 trans conversion

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 1941 streetrod, Mar 29, 2022.

  1. 1941 streetrod
    Joined: Jun 4, 2014
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    1941 streetrod
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    from wisconsin

    Hi
    I have a 1953 ford F1 pickup that has a Y block motor with a stick shift transmission. I am about to remove the trans and replace it with a C4 automatic. I already have the conversion kit from Flat O products, but my question is will I have to remove a bushing/bearing from the crank ?
    Thanks
    Joe
     
  2. speed gems sells a lot of transmission adapters
     
  3. krylon32
    Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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    Why don't you check with FlatO
     
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  4. squirrel
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    My wild guess would be "maybe"...but reading the instructions or talking to the folks who sell the kit, is the best way to go. Or else you can just take the transmission out, and look at the crankshaft. If the torque converter pilot looks like it will fit in the recess in the end of the crank without removing the pilot bushing, then you should be able to leave it in. If it looks like it won't fit, then you'll have to remove it.
     
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  5. alchemy
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    Use the peanut butter trick to remove the bushing. Easy to do.
     
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  6. 55blacktie
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    Streetrod, call, do not email, Gene (Flat-O Products). Although he does have an email address, Gene avoids email, preferring calls. I have found that the Flat-O installation instructions leave out some of the details, as you have discovered. For instance, if the torque converter is aftermarket, it could have "wings" to which the studs are welded. If that's the case, it's not necessary to tig-weld the studs. If you have any doubts, send Gene a text message containing photos of what you have.
     
  7. I used toilet paper dipped in water and it worked great.....and wasn't as messy....
     
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  8. jimmy six
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    The instructions on the Flat-O page on the Y-block says to install the supplied pilot bushing for the torque converter on the second page. I’m guessing here but that implies that isn’t one in the engine and if there is remove it unless it fits in it.
     
  9. mgtstumpy
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  10. 55blacktie
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    55blacktie

    Yep. No need for bushing/instructions, otherwise.
     
  11. 57Custom300
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    X2
     
  12. alchemy
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    You can use wheel bearing grease too. Then you haven't introduced water or food to the area. Wipe it off and good to assemble.
     
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  13. Corn Fed
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    I like bread.
     
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  14. 55blacktie
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    I hope it wasn't "Used."
     
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  15. I used grease and an old pilot shaft.
    Easy peasy.
     
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  16. jimmy six
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    Always took a sliding hammer and hook for me.
     
  17. sloppy jalopies
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    like dirt t ...
    i used to pump the pilot bearing area full of grease, then find a dowel that fits...
    tap the dowel with a hammer and the bearing should get forced out..
    worked for me...
     
  18. I always use grease but when I did this time, there was a roller bearing, and the thin metal cover of the bearing blew out and the grease just passed through. I used the wet paper and it wouldn't hydraulic through and pushed out easily.....
     

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