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  1. Ron Brown
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    Can anyone explain this distributor cap...I would really like to see the rotor? 5A21F477-4065-4A5F-8054-ABB562365CDF.jpeg
     
  2. Rickybop
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    Looks to me like a hot Wayne 6 cylinder with dual spark plugs, 12 lugs on the cap, and a few spark plug wires not installed.
     
  3. Rickybop
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    And dual coils.
     
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  4. SS327
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    For dual plug 6 cyl head?
     
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  5. Rickybop
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    I don't know, never saw one with dual plugs. But are there not 6 pairs of lugs on the distributor cap? 12 total?
     
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  6. Rehpotsirhcj
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    I want to see the other side of that head
     
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  7. Moriarity
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    that is a piece arrow distributor. It was a common hot rod practice to put those on engines with 2 plugs per cylinder. It is similar to the aftermarket W&H dual coil distributors that were made in the fifties and sixties. there is a spring loaded brush on the rotor that picks up the second coil from the ring inside, see the pic dualcoil.jpg
     
  8. Moriarity
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    they are probably running one plug per cylinder but using the dist as a dual coil unit. It gives more coil saturation time and thus hotter spark
     
  9. Rickybop
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    Could it be that there are 6 spark plugs, and each pair of spark plug wires fires each spark plug twice? Actually, maybe an extended single spark.
     
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    That car belongs to HAMBer Cody Walls in Dewlaware,
     
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  11. Rickybop
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    Yeah, what Mark said.
     
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  12. Cody has a build thread here.

    Mick
     
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  13. Nash distributor??
     
  14. Rehpotsirhcj
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    1) beautiful
    2) Cody knows his shit
    3) I’m still confused as hell.
    D50CF0D8-FAEA-4A03-9D42-F2E0BC8042EA.jpeg

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  15. Ron Brown
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    I understand the arrangement of the plug wire spacing on the wires around the perimeter of the cap, so, I am assuming the 2 "inboard" wires go to coils? Interested to see a view of the internals without the cap...my flathead has a gennie, crab style distributor that has the strangest rotor i've ever seen, but this one has we scratch'n my head.
     
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  16. blowby
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    Must get very hot.
     
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  17. Moriarity
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    look at post 7 above, I posted a picture of a rotor and the inside of a cap
     
  18. Rehpotsirhcj
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    I missed the part about saturation time with a single plug per cylinder, now I get it.
     
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    Last edited: Jan 14, 2022
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  21. Ron Brown
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    Ah.....I see....didnt notice the ring inside the cap.......pretty cool really
     
  22. Cody Walls
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    For those who’s wondering , the distributor is a very early spalding made for the Wayne F Horning company for the Wayne 12 ports back in the early 50s ,
    its a Nash twin-plug distributor cap , with a modified base to fit on a Chevy distributor , every other lobe is grounded off the shaft . it provide 2 distinct 3 cylinder coil circuits . . . doubling dwell time and maximizing coil saturation at high RPM.
    , it’s a very Frankenstein setup but works very well and it was a hotter spark than a mag in the early 50s ,
     
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  23. Cody Walls
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    5B08103D-C666-4709-AF39-BF435700216C.jpeg
    also the crazy part of this whole setup is if you switch the coil wires around , it puts the motor 180 out .
     
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  25. At the age of 14 ( 1967 ) in Australia my very first vintage car was a free 6 cylinder 1928 NASH . Real big car and i had no idea what i was doing except dismantling . ( learning curve ) The 12 sparkplugs and that big distributor cap where interesting. I remember lifting the cap and there was a extra new cap stuck under it . The automatic chassis lubricating system was interesting as well. Sold the whole car in pieces for $ 50. Anyhow when i moved to The Netherlands in 1978 i took the new cap with me. Sold it years later for good money.
     
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  26. Thanks Cody, for stepping in and giving us further clarification on a very cool and innovative approach to ignition. Outstanding.
     
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  27. jim snow
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    X2. Snowman ⛄️
     
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  28. now that is a hot rod!
     
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  29. Ron Brown
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    well...it's cooler n shit...fer sure
     
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  30. Mr48chev
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    Add me to that list of folks who say thanks. That's quite a setup. Not far off some of the dual point V8 distributors with 4 lobes on the distributor cam though.
     
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