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Technical 3 or 4 row radiator? 1931 A, flathead

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ben Chirco, Jan 11, 2022.

  1. Ben Chirco
    Joined: Oct 21, 2019
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    I have done a search, seems like the answer would be everywhere.
    I have a 31 A. 8BA. I am looking for the radiator now.
    I think I have a 16" mechanical fan figured out. (I will complete the thread i started on my fan set up when I am 100% sure its complete.)
    Probably go aluminum radiator. Do i need 3 or 4 rows?
     
  2. Petejoe
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    If you have the room always go for extra rows. Never enough radiator.
     
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  3. Budget36
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    I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a 4 row aluminum radiator? Are you buying off the shelf or having one made?
     
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  4. Ratspit
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    3 row will flow air better than a 4 row. Plus if you go with a thicker radiator you may have to reduce the overall dimensions to fit in the shell thus reducing cooling capacity.
     
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  5. goldmountain
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    It is not just the number of rows but also the size of the rows that you need to look at.
     
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  6. 51504bat
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    This is from a supplier's site about aluminum radiator sizing. Not sure if its the gospel or not. Just putting it out for consideration.

    Please note: a large 2- row aluminum radiator will cool better the a 3-row or even 4-row aluminum radiator. Aluminum is NOT LIKE COPPER where more tubes/rows means more cooling. It is the size of the tubes/rows that provide the best cooling. THE LARGER TUBES PROVIDE MORE SURFACE AREA OF CONTACT TO THE FINS FOR MORE HEAT EXTRACTION. The highest cooling efficiency is with 2 rows 1 inch to 1&1/8 inch wide. Do your research and you will find any major name brand radiator shop will be building them with 2-large rows.
     
  7. hemihotrod66
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    I have a two row aluminum with inch and a half tubes....Couldn't find a brass one that would cool my supercharged hemi in Vegas summers...
     
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  8. Glenn Thoreson
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    I am using a 4 row aluminum radiator in my A-v8. It's a bit smaller than a '29 original and my guess is it's a "second" due to the cheap price. A 16" electric fan did not do the job of keeping the flathead cool. I went to a 17" stock fan with better than average blade pitch and that cured it. My best advise is to be sure to buy an all welded aluminum radiator if you go that way. No epoxy or other sealant. Cooling ability is determined by three things: Fins per inch, number of tubes and air flow. Always use a thermostat to control fluid flow. Without one the coolant can zip through the radiator before it has a chance to cool. Especially at high RPM in hot weather. It won't warm up in the winter , either.
     
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  9. jimmy six
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    A shroud will enhance any cooling system if one can be fitted. Check circle track suppliers. I turned one vertical that was meant to be horizontal. They come blank so you cut the fan hole. Worked perfect on a 40 Chevrolet with a stock sized radiator.
     
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  10. nobby
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    8ba hardened exhaust valve seat
    10 percent ethanol
     
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  11. Ben Chirco
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    I have not seen a 4 row, I am just starting my research and asking questions. Space is super tight up front so i need to be super careful. I wil re read all this advice again to help my decision. thanks
     
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  12. Boneyard51
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    If you can’t go large, you have to go thick. But remember the forth row, the one closes to the engine, does not cool as much as the very first one. As you add rows the efficiency of each row decreases, somewhat. Design and air flow are important. Like mentioned always use a shroud ,that covers the whole radiator, if possible! And position the fan properly in the shroud!






    Bones
     
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  13. connielu
    Joined: Apr 21, 2019
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    What he said^^
    The thicker the core the harder it is to get air through it. It is all about fin to tube contact, tube size, and air movement.
     

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