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Technical Y Block

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by sickiee32, Jan 3, 2022.

  1. Call Tim at Hanford Auto and Machine a true YBlock guy (559) 584-4487
     
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  2. egads
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  3. sickiee32
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    Both
     
  4. miker98038
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    F code clone in stretched rails, channeled Dearborn body. Front motor plate with side frame mounts. Mostly Mummert parts, including a set of ported iron heads before his aluminum ones came out. I’ve got a set of the aluminum heads on another y block, they’re the best starting point if the budget allows.

    There’s also a lot of testing info and build information at Ted Eaton’s site. He’s in Texas, so probably not an option for building. But he and Tim McMasters (above) are the 2 Yblock guys at the top of the game.

    https://www.eatonbalancing.com/
     

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  6. jimmy six
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    I use Contemporary Machine in Huntington Beach for block prep and crank/rod/piston balancing. He will do assembly too but no heads. Crank machining by Marine Crankshaft in Santa Ana and then to Contemporary.
    Various shops for cylinder heads depending on what they are going to be used for.
     
  7. 55blacktie
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    There's no such thing as roller lifters for a Y-block. Roller rockers, yes.
     
  8. drtrcrV-8
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    55blacktie : please don't forget the other "Y-Block" : The "Y-Block" Lincolns... You know, the ones that "fixed" those funny intake ports & used "regular" lifters? LOL!!
     
  9. jimmy six
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    The ones with conventional intake ports were out first. Ford either felt the “funny” ones were more efficient or cheaper to manufacture and still give ample power. 2 years after it’s debut they made twice the hp as the flathead engine it replaced.
     
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  10. 55blacktie
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    Ford stacked the intake ports to equalize their length. There have been many engine-design innovations by all of the manufacturers over the years; some worked well, but some were a disaster, like the Vega's teflon cylinder liners and early GM 350-based diesels, and the 4-6-8-cylinder deactivation. My 2017 Ram 1500 Hemi has cylinder deactivation and, so far, works flawlessly. Maybe GM deserves some credit for that. Electronics certainly have improved.
     
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  11. sunbeam
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    Actually ford G heads flowed very well for their day and it made for a very simple 180deg. intake manifold. The one I never could figure out was big block chevy moving the intake ports side by side when equally spaced would match the valve arrangement better.
     
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  12. tbirddragracer
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    Go to http://ford-y-block.com
    Scroll down to Information Center, click on Dyno Test 331 cu. in , then click on Dyno Test 340 cu. in.
    John Mummert built this 425 hp 331 cu. in. y-block in April 2000, and refreshed it to 451 hp 340 cu. in.
    in May 2002. John did this back in 2000 and 2002. Imagine all the high hp new items now available.
    Your pocketbook is the limit.
     
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  13. 55blacktie
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    Mummert's aluminum heads and intake manifold have been available for a number of years, now. I'm not aware of any new parts coming to light recently, other than there's been talk of a Mummert single-plane aluminum intake.
     
  14. If anyone has filter clearance issues I found this filter at NAPA, it fits a Ford industrial 300 6 cylinder and is the shortest Ford filter I know of. 242676152_4468413766549100_815316655663566639_n.jpg
     
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  15. jimmy six
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    I use a shorty Wix. It’s still hard to get off around the PS hoses and control valve…
     
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  16. williebill
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    What's the NAPA number for that short filter? Thanks.
     
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  17. JROTTEN
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    Try Clay Smith Cams in Buena Park. They do ALL machine work there, I'm assembling a 312 for a customer of there's now.
     
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  18. NAPA Gold #1335 , also crosses over to WIX 51335.
     
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  19. drtrcrV-8
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    Seems that I remember Mummert won the "Vintage Engine Masters" several years ago with a modified "Y-Block" Lincoln motor... Anybody have that magazine handy?
     
  20. williebill
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    Thanks for the part numbers. Could be a big problem solver.
     
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  21. egads
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  22. egads
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    Also interesting ----https://auto.jepistons.com/blog/sneak-peak-ted-eatons-2018-engine-masters-challenge-engine-is-a-600hp-y-block
     
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  23. Sun Valley Auto Parts, on 82 12 Sunland Blvd in Sun Valley Ca. 91352 a block off SanFernando Road does good work on vintage engines. 818-767-6603
     
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  24. drtrcrV-8
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    egads : thanks for the video! I seem to remember a similar video, with another Lincoln "Y-Block" entry that also did very well, but I haven't found it yet.
     
  25. sickiee32
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    Awesome thanks !!
     
  26. sickiee32
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    did you just bring them the block ? are they assembling the whole motor??
     
  27. sunbeam
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    Just remember Y block head gaskets say front .And cam timing dots are 12 pins apart most chains have colored links. Drivers side when the engine is right side up. I say this because many times the engines are on a stand up side down because you just installed the cam and it was up side down the keep the lifters from falling out.
     
  28. oliver westlund
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    Car quest machine shop in junction city is one of the better machine shops in the state imo. Andy down there is a stud with anything ford. I dont know if gary is still there but hes great with anything but especially mopar stuff. Both of em would never claim to know something they dont. Good honest high quality work
     
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  29. y'sguy
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    I would also recommend buying the book-
    Ford Y-Block Engines: How to Rebuild and Modify by Charlie Morris. Even if you are not the one doing all the work it's a good idea to understand how and what needs to be done so you can communicate better with the builder. Contrary to popular belief there are only a few unique things to a FORD y block and they can all be figured out and understood. They run good and sound great.
    You might also contact Ted Eaton on his website at eatonbalancing.com I a sure he could give you a good reference in your area. As mentioned Tim MnMasters is great and isn't very close to you but well worth the trip.
     
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