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  1. Thepartsbinguy1
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    Got this small block and two t-90a1’s for 100$ IT’s gonna be a short time before I get to work on it. I’ll be back on this thread off and on posting whatever I get done with it. I’m guessing small valves with the 461 heads? 7FA16688-C34D-4D17-A241-66647B9AF5EA.jpeg C579F008-7FF4-4CE5-B890-4F3B24D3144D.jpeg 606BE679-6183-472B-A00B-2D37DC429BB0.jpeg 34A5F809-4DD8-4A52-A0B2-3A3FF2DE8E28.jpeg
     
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  2. squirrel
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    probably 1.94/1.50 valves. Head and block dates match, that's neat.
     
  3. 2OLD2FAST
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    With scrap iron @ $250 per ton ,you may have overpaid !
     
  4. Terrific deal.......tear it down and post the pix......
     
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  5. Bob Lowry
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    And the AFB and intake are from a 300 hp 327" looks like...super deal!! Nice score!
    Generator mount on the passenger side typically was on Corvettes.
     
  6. squirrel
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    yeah, scrape off the top of the block, just in front of the pass side head....should be the stamped numbers/letters there to tell you what it is.
     
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  7. DDDenny
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    Seeing that head without the rocker cover reminded me to mention about the differences in the early oem Chevy small block rocker arms, probably pretty trivial around here.
    The ones with the diamond as in the photo are used on the lower hp engines and the higher hp engines used an "O" stamped version. If you run onto them you have found something a bit rare nowadays.
    Here is a set of NOS "O" rockers, sorry, may need to enlarge the photo, it's all I could find.


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  8. indyjps
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    B224 one digit year represents Flint made block. If my memory is correct. This casting # and Flint made vs Towanda is what Corvette guys look for.

    You may have run across something here.

    Let's see the front deck stamping. If it is corvette. Great. If it's not.. . .that hasn't really mattered to "restorers" for years it'll match soon. o_O
     
  9. Thepartsbinguy1
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    here is the front number pad. B4C29F52-4EC2-4F8D-BE72-9221976EF730.jpeg 9E6D2FE8-30C7-445B-952A-0A7AC75B8B7B.jpeg
     
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  10. Black Panther
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    Hard to read...two letter code looks like PP..but there isn't any Ps listed that I saw in my quick Google search. It's either RP or RR...dont remember if it had camel hump or power pack heads in the one picture showing the head casting number

    Edit...looked at the casting number on the head. Its a camel hump. So it can't be a 250 horse version since those came with power pack heads. Which means if you have an RR code on the pad..you have a genuine Corvette high horse motor. Also having a partial vin was kind of a Corvette only thing back then. Possible congratulations!!

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  11. Mr48chev
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  12. gary macdonald
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    Check the crank for a pilot bearing
     
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  14. wheeldog57
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    Neato either way
     
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  15. Mr48chev
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    Time to take that puppy apart and solve the mystery. You never know what mix and match of sbc parts got used to put one together and especially a small journal block based engine.

    Simply meaning that combo may not have left the factory as that combo.
     
  16. Black Panther
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    The didn't put 461 camel hump heads on 283s...also they didn't use an 870 block. 283s had their own block casting number. Ill bet you that intake doesn't jive with the heads/block.

    Lastly the PP listed above is for a 1965 Nova. This engine is for a 1964 car..being cast Feb of 1964..I didn't see any PP codes in 1964..I agree with clean that pad off some more.
     
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  17. Thepartsbinguy1
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    I went out and cleaned the pad it is RB F1E922FE-AB4F-4E5D-A44A-A7762E26D9BF.png
     
  18. gary macdonald
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    Looks like RP . Everything looks correct , cast iron 4 barrel , carb , ram horn , double hump heads , no rotators ,
     
  19. Moriarity
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    RB is 1962 327 300 HP, that doesn't jive with the 64 casting date though
     
  20. RB is 1962, 327.

    Dang, Moriarity beat me to the answer.

    Does the engine block have holes on the starter side to mount a starter to. If not, it could be 1962 year, the starter mounted to the bellhousing that year.

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    1962 starter - bell housing mount.
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    1964 sbc engine block mount starter
     
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  21. Thepartsbinguy1
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    safe to say it’s 1964 RP ??
     
  22. Black Panther
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    Found a 1964 RB on an Impala website...1964 327 300 hp 4 speed. That makes sense....now I bet that intake matches..as it's for an afb carb which is what that engine would have come with.

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  23. Thepartsbinguy1
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    The starter does mount to the bell housing. Some weird setup on that whole deal.. 4D775FF6-D11B-4375-A823-ED1D0DC87FB7.jpeg DA9569AF-130A-4763-8170-F185CBE10E3A.jpeg 5F81FDBC-6ACB-4482-A77A-7FD2DA3C6EF6.jpeg
     
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  24. gary macdonald
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    Is that a ford trans attached to it ? Looks like a flathead adapter and trans . That trans and adapter could be worth a few times what you paid for the motor .
     
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  25. Moedog07
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    Come, Watson, come!" he cried. "The game is afoot!" (As I wait patiently for the results of the block internals to reveal the cubic inches of the mystery small block)
     
  26. Thepartsbinguy1
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    The transmission is stamped t90A-1 it’s a Jeep transmission.
     
  27. Thepartsbinguy1,
    It is just a bunch of mismatched parts, not worth anything. :D I will take it off of your hands. :) Where is SPACE? Can I drive to it from Kansas?
     
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  28. Thepartsbinguy1
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    I really don’t wanna tear it down.. would you believe unsticking the carter is a better idea in my mind then ripping every gasket I can get my hands on.. it came out of a Jeep and it’s going back in one.. so if it’s something rare it really doesn’t matter.
     
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  29. DDDenny
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    327 rocker covers and if they are 1962 covers they are real hard to find.
    By the way if it was a 64-67 Chevy II block it will have a recessed oil filter pad.
    Like this.
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  30. Thepartsbinguy1
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    This one is not recessed? Not a 64? EDIT: that canister dish looks longer then the one on my 283
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