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Projects A late introduction-Junior Conway coupe build

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by jivin jer, Oct 10, 2009.

  1. jivin jer
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    IMG_0969.jpg This is the last pic of this type.
     
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    We're back into some stuff that Junior let me take home. These two pics show two "movie stars" of the day, in and around his "tear drop" Kustom. The male is Richard Beymer who had a leading role in "west side story". I can't ID the chic, although she looks very familiar.
     

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    This is a fuzzy p IMG_0987 (1).jpg ic of Juniors car and his brother Herbs '54 Merc.
     
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    Fantastic stuff! Amazing amount of detective work on your part, what a labor of love! Thanks for adding.
     
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  6. Since you used the long skirt did he give you any insight into the construction of the 51 Merc skirt(?) with the spears?
     
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    I did ask him about those Merc skirts, he said they were too tall so he had to "chop" them and remake the flange on that top section. The spears were '54 Merc (on the 1/4 panels). It was him needing some welding on them that got him to Barris's shop. They liked how he had gone about doing them and asked him if he was interested in a job after school, he was, and the rest is history.
     
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    This pic was also in that drawer, I call it "the last days". It shows the car with the Pontiac IMG_0988 (2).jpg engine in it. You can see the chromed radiator, and the windshield that made it unable to pass state inspection (pa.) If anything deviated from "factory", you were not going to get it licensed, or the title transferred.
     
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    Thanks for posting this. It was nice to see.
    I know he was really happy to see his car recreated to such detail.
     
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    IMG_0991.jpg IMG_0992.jpg IMG_0992.jpg IMG_0992.jpg This is a letter sent to me by John Soko, I think he was the last owner that actually drove the car. He describes the condition the car was in. This is the point (to me), where the car "slips" out of the hands of the one person who might have "saved" it, however it would have been unrecognizable. The original doors were swapped out for ones that had actual door handles etc, and hung on the walls of a garage for over 20 years. When John remembered them, and went to check on them, the garage was gone.

    I do think that as tragic and tortured as the car would have been in the state John describes, it still would have been worth the effort to bring it back.

    I do think that I have captured the look, feel, smell, and sound of the original car. After having the car and driving it awhile in the Texas sun, I called and asked Junior if he really appreciated how stunning the car was. He replied that he did. SORRY FOR ALL THE DUPLICATES
     
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    When Junior came over on Saturday night at the GNRS in 2011, as we were winding down our visit which was good and long, I knew he would appreciate what the under hood area locked like. He was still sitting in the car when I asked him to open the hood. I watched as he reached down and made the pull on the cable to which the the latch was attached. It didn't pop open, which meant the cable had pulled through that fastener that wasn't as tight as it needed to be. I told him we would take care of it later.

    To bad, I'm sure he would have been thrilled to see everything. IMG_0598.JPG
     
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    A couple of comments about these last posts, #1629 is Junior's son in law. Junior was careful at first about not showing any hint of being excited about his car actually being done, because I asked him fairly early on how many times his car had been started, and he said three or four times. So, there are some uncompleted projects out there that haven't been found, or were sold off, and turned into something else.

    Wolfie, (the son-in law), and I started posting back and forth a bit as the GNRS was approaching (on this thread). He lives in Utah with his wife (Junior's daughter), and grandson. He told me that they were not coming, but that Junior's son was. He did tell me that in the last few months when they would talk on the phone, the first question Junior would open with was "have you seen the car (online)?"

    It was gratifying to know that he was "pumped" about his car being done. I did ask him days before that weekend arrived if the seventeen-year-old Jr was still in there, he chuckled, and I followed up by saying that this upcoming weekend belonged to that teenager.

    With this car haunting me (starting in the eighties), you will have to imagine what that interchange with Jr meant to me, because I can't find the words, what a ride.
     
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    Jer, in that letter that was signed John, there is a mention of the car being owned by a person named Larry. Do you know who this Larry is ? The reason I ask, and he might have already posted something in this thread, but my good friend Larry Ellenberger from north of Pittsburgh, ended up with this car around 1963. I just remember bits and pieces of our conversation about the car, but he traded his '40 Ford sedan (which I later owned) to a fellow from Tarentum, PA, David Sloane, for the Conway car. It was white at the time and had Alaska plates on it when Larry got it. Now this is where it gets really vague, I THINK the flathead had a cracked block and Larry started to install a Pontiac, but never got it running. The car either went to a junkyard around the Apollo, PA area, but ended up being bought by someone from eastern PA. Larry passed away this past June so trying to place things in order is now gone.
     
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    Andamo, I do remember the Larry situation. He did reply and added to the story, much to everyone's delight. That means he revealed his site here on the hamb. I've gone back and tried to find it without sucess, it should still be there. One problem that I now have is macular degeneration (eyes), so things don't work as good as they once did.
     
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    I do need to add here that both Junior and Jesse are illiterate regarding the internet. I had to send them each page of their stories (in color) through the us mail. So, it would be a treat for them when someone would sit down with them and show them what the stories looked like in "real time".

    The only reason that I have the marginal skills that I have is my business forced me to learn how to navigate the vast, intimidating landscape. I would always put off a change to a new system as long as possible because I was so intimidated. My staff did have some mercy, and would eventually have to tell me, that at the end of the month what you are using and have become comfortable with will be gone.

    Very tough, so I do understand, and occasionally plead my case to an illiterate friend to gut it out until you get comfortable. So far, I don't recall any success stories.
     
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    Is this Larry you were looking for?

    hot rod crazy here:

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ction-junior-conway-coupe-build.406588/page-4

    post #112

    "Almost hate to reply to this thread. I traded a 40 Ford sedan for Jrs. car in the mid 60's, this was in Natrona Heights, Pa. It had Alaska plates on it, was painted all white. Still had the all chrome flat motor in it but the block had an external crack, was driveable but leaked pretty good. Still had the electric doors, hood, etc. The frame had been notched alot with a torch to lower it and was cracked everywhere. It had a chrome dash with paint on part of it and stripping. Still had the custom bumpers and tube grill. Long story (SAD) is I sold it to a buddy and he took the Buick taillites/custom back-up lites out in favor of plexiglass with little bullets, the style then. He lost interest and sold it, it then sat in a field for years and went bad. It got junked at a small junk yard just outside of Vandergrift, Pa. called Benny's. I still have some photos of the car from here in that period but not as many as I wish I'd have taken. I wish I had it back and still think it was the best shoebox ever !! Good luck on yours."
     
  17. jivin jer
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    THIS IS THE CORRECT LARRY! Thanks for the assist LB.
     
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  18. Andamo
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    Loud Bang and Jer, thank you so much for the work finding Larry's original thread about the coupe. It looks like I correctly remembered what I had previously posted and some...not so much. I thought sure that the car ended up being salvaged from the yard and going east. That yard that Larry mentioned, Benny's, had cars from the 20's up to maybe the 70's and mostly older cars. I remember being around that area one day when the yard was being cleared out and seeing 2 flatbed trucks with compacted cars on them and seeing all the wooden wheels. Again, thanks guys for your work.
     
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    Just checkin in with a MERRY CHRISTMAS to everybody, I'm doin good, just takin a break.
     

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