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  1. steveu812
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    Found this picture in a box of old family photos.
    Any help in identifying them would be appreciated.
    Thanks.
    LI Cars sm.jpg
     
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  2. Speed Gems
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    The second one from the left might be a Stanley Steamer.
     
  3. 58 Mustang
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    A steamer with a crank??
     
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  4. The37Kid
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    They were registered in Connecticut. Someone had good taste in automobiles, estate looks very nice.

    Bob
     
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  5. catdad49
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    Brass Era, real antique cars to some of the Real old timers. Time to dig out the Floyd Clymer Books!
     
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  6. Deuce Lover
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    Go on,aaca.org.They might be able to help
     
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  7. finn
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    Rich man’s cars.

    “Those ain’t no hot rod Model T Fords!”
     
  8. lippy
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    from Ks

    Notice they are all R.H. drive.
     
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  9. I think they are French Dodgês !!:D
     
  10. steveu812
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    My dad was adopted into the John W. Masury family. Masury invented the method of adding pigment to base colors of paint. Also, the lid that paint cans still have. Made a fortune selling durable (highly leaded) paints to the railroads and a built a 'country house' on Center Moriches L.I. in the late 1800's. It was leveled by a hurricane in 1938. Some online pics of that house show similar arcitecture to the buildings in the picture so I suspect that's where it was taken. I'm sure he also had a house in Connecticut since the business was in NYC - so that would explain the Connecticut tags.
    Unfortunately, somewhere along the line that money moved to the other side of the family so I have only old pictures of cool cars...oh, and Masury as a middle name.
     
  11. The37Kid
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    Can some one enlarge every car in the photo? Sure will help bring up features we need to ID them. Second car from the left looks European. Many USA built cars were RHD around 1910, the other three look to be American built. I'll ask a friend with the book to run the plates. Bob

    Bob
     
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  12. loudbang
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    1a.jpg

    1b.jpg

    1c.jpg

    1d.jpg
     
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  13. I can't help identifying them, but I bet the one with C14720 plates was pretty "sporty" in the day.
     
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  14. oldiron 440
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    Are those seald beam headlamps in the brass headlamps?
     
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  15. I'll try my best .... the one on the left is Aunt Mildred's, beside that is Uncle Albert's, next to that appears to be Grampa Jethro's ride and last ... hmmmm ... that could be cousin Guido's from NYC, he always had nice cars.
     
  16. bill gruendeman
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    I think they would have been carbon arc or acetylene, but not sealed beam
     
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  17. bill gruendeman
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    I read somewhere that before the model t there was no standard side, but Henry Ford put it on the left because the man would be driving and picking up the wife on the kids from the curb so it would be safer. Don’t know but that’s what I read.
     
  18. F-head
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    The second from left looks like a Renault from around 1916
     
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  19. jimmy six
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    Stage Coach’s in westerns seems to be driven on the right side so the driver could get down and open the door. Could have started with something as easy as that. The Henry Ford idea makes sense too for this side of the pond…
     
  20. The one on the right is before it was "Munstered".:D
     
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  21. The37Kid
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    That is a round mirror you see. Bob
     
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  22. Steve Ray
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    True. And many streets were still unpaved and muddy, so people preferred to get in and out on the sidewalk side.
     
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  23. redo32
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    Second from the right is most likely a Mercer.
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  24. 58 Mustang
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    Cars never had carbon arc lighting. That requires a tremendous amount of electricity. The lamps are carbide
     
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  25. Mr48chev
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    My dad would probably have known what half of those were right off. Best I can offer is to do some rather vague searches and sort though lots of photos of similar cars until you find exact matches
     
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  26. steveu812
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    Sometimes I wonder what I did to research car stuff before the internet. Oh yea, shleped to the county library, poured over the Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature, and hoped they had the microfiche for that issue of Car Craft, Hot Rod, R&T or C&D - and finally, that no one was using the reader that could print on those 8-1/2x11" thermal paper.

    So taking the suggestion that one of the cars was a Renault, I Googled "renault masury".
    In the image results page was a thumbnail of the page 4 of Brooklyn Life magazine and a listing of the "Automobile Owners of Brooklyn and Long Island" And toward the bottom of the first column it listed:
    1910 Simplex, 1910 Renault and a 1908 Packard to Grace Masury, Center Moriches, L.I.

    LI Cars Brookly Life 1911.jpg

    Here's a link to the full page if anyone is interested:
    Brooklyn Life Sept 2, 1911
     
  27. The37Kid
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    WOW! Great research work. I sent the enlarged photos to a friend that has the Connecticut plate list. Some states required you to register cars in that state if you spent so many months there. The Connecticut plates may have bee for the "Summer" place
     
  28. studebakerjoe
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    Screenshot_20211020-172421_(1).png It looks like the Renault looking one was modified or not their Renault if you notice it has a radiator down low in front where Renault used to have the radiator right next to the firewall. Heres a 1910 Renault.
     
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  29. 1934coupe
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    That's why I love Hamb! Nice work Steve. And a little known factoid LI goes from Brooklyn all the way out to Montauk. Besides Brooklyn (Kings county) it includes Queens, Nassau and Suffolk counties.

    Pat
     
  30. The37Kid
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    [​IMG]

    That thing over the steering wheel is the end of the speaking tube that the owner would use to talk with the chauffeur. Home James.

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