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Technical '49 Ford Pinion Gear--Rookie Mechanic

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by jazzed, Sep 6, 2021.

  1. jazzed
    Joined: Sep 6, 2021
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    jazzed

    Some months back, after little usage of the vehicle, I noticed a trail of gear oil near a rear wheel. A friend who is a mechanic for a large utility company crawled under and indicated that it was a pinion seal leak. I bought a Ford manual, watched some videos and when I went to disconnect the drive shaft, realized that the four bolts were almost hand loose (about 1/4 turn each with a wrench and I could easily remove them by hand). I'm not sure that this issue, nor lack of use might have caused that seal to leak, but I tightened the bolts, filled up the tranny with gear oil, took it for a short spin and after two hours, not a drop leaking. Did I just get lucky or is there some science involved here?
     
  2. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    Did you fill the rear end with oil, or only the transmission? If the rear was leaking, and it's all leaked out, it won't leak any more....
     
  3. jazzed
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    jazzed

    My bad, it was the rear end I filled with oil. Had to scrape away years worth of grease just to find the plug. Took about 1/2 qt of 90w, GL5. Thanks for your correction.
     
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  4. squirrel
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    I don't know how you could have fixed the leak, by tightening up the U joint retaining bolts.

    If it's working now, keep an eye on it, and drive and enjoy.
     
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  5. jazzed
    Joined: Sep 6, 2021
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    jazzed

    Alas, after a 5 mile drive, the leak has re-appeared. One problem I had when trying to install the new seal was that I couldn't get the nut off after dis-connecting the driveshaft. The Ford manual lists a tool from the 1940's that doesn't appear to be available. This isn't your usual throw a ratchet onto the nut and pull it as there's a "tit" atop the nut. The part that once connected to the driveshaft kept turning as I ratcheted; I attached a pipe wrench to hold it in place, but the nut still wouldn't turn. Gonna try some Power Blaster tomorrow as maybe the nut hasn't been moved in decades, but I don't want to make a bad situation worse. Any ideas?
     
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  6. seb fontana
    Joined: Sep 1, 2005
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    from ct

    I think maybe not enough torque applied.
     
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  7. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
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    Time for an impact wrench.
     
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  8. pitman
    Joined: May 14, 2006
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    Or, tense-pull on, the IMPACT socket 'drive' bar, and TAP bar handle end w/a hammer. (No ratchet need appy here)
    Then, if esp. stubborn...use this method in tighten-loosen sequence. Pretend you & mallet mimic the air wrench.
     
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  9. Budget36
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    The pinion nut was probably put on with 200+ ft/lbs of torque.
    I don’t think putting PB blaster, etc, will help much.
    An impact wrench is probably going to be needed.
     
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  10. Maicobreako
    Joined: Jun 25, 2018
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    You wrote that the leak was near a wheel. Wouldn't that be a wheel/axle seal and not the pinion leaking?
     
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  11. Slopok
    Joined: Jan 30, 2012
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    After having his mechanic friend look at it they determined it was the pinon seal.
     
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