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  1. 8balldave
    Joined: Jul 26, 2021
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    8balldave
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    from Joplin, MO

    I'm in the process of freshening up a '57 GMC truck with a 347 Pontiac motor in it. The cam is stamped with 522014. The only information I have come across indicates that this would have been in a '56 Pontiac Safari. Other than that, I can't find any other information on it. I intend to use the truck as a tow vehicle for an old Spartan trailer, so would like to see if it will be a good torque cam or if I should replace it. Anybody out there have some information on it?
     
  2. 302GMC
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    from Idaho

    '56 Pontiac w/ hydramatic according to 1956 Motor "Flat Rate'' ... Safari has nothing to do with it. Use it !
     
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  3. 8balldave
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    Are there any specs on the cam in there?
     
  4. 302GMC
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    302GMC
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    from Idaho

    Go to "Old Car Manual Project" - find the '56 Pontiac shop manual and check there ...
     

  5. 8balldave
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    Thanks 302GMC, I hadn't seen that resource yet!
     
  6. stuart in mn
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    Another great source of information is http://www.pontiacsafari.com There are shop manuals and parts catalogs there, among other things.
     
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  7. Flat rate "Motor's" manuals as well as Chilton flat rates are great for the part #'s that go with the repair - buy one the next time you can - they usually cover 8 to 10 years worth per manual.
     
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  8. cpraceman
    Joined: Feb 6, 2011
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    from walls, ms

    The 347" Pontiac engine shows to be a 1957 engine. There were 2 different lifts of cams.
    If your cam is in good condition you could have it checked or reground to make more
    torque.

    1957
    HP Disp C.R. Ind. Make Model/Transmission Manifold R.R. Lifter Head cc Notes

    227 347 8.5 1-2 Roch 7009832/ALL 1.5 H 66.0
    244 347 8.5 1-4 Roch 7009829/ALL 1.5 H 66.0
    252 347 10.0 1-2 Roch 7009831/ALL 1.5 H 66.0
    270 347 10.0 1-4 Roch 7009830/ALL 1.5 H 66.0 1
    290 347 10.0 3-2 Roch Fr-7011351,902 Rr-7011352,904 1.5 H 66.0 2
    317 347 10.0 FI Roch 7014770/ALL 1.5 H 66.0 3

    Notes
    1-Alt carb Carter AFB-2506S/ALL
    2-Alt carb C-7011350,903
    3-Alt carb Optional usage is same 3-2's as on 290hp


    Deck Piston Dish/Dome
    HP Disp Cl Type Height Vol Valves Cam Lift Springs

    227 347 .000 1880/1600 380/380 Outer & Inner
    244 347 .000 1880/1600 380/380 Outer & Inner
    252 347 .000 1880/1600 411/411 Outer & Inner
    270 347 .000 1880/1600 411/411 Outer & Inner
    290 347 .000 1880/1600 411/411 Outer & Inner
    317 347 .000 1880/1600 411/411
     
  9. jimmy six
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    Advance it 4-6 degrees and it will pull your house down the street.
     
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  10. 41 GMC K-18
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    41 GMC K-18
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    " Everything old, is new again "
     
  11. lippy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2006
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    from Ks

    I had a 57 pontiac convertible with the 347 and three two's. Wonder if it was a different cam than the others. Lippy
     
  12. carbking
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    If you are going to play with Pontiac engines, the paperback "Pontiac Performance 1955-1979" by Pete McCarthy, is an absolute must for your library.

    Look for the second (or newer) printing.

    Jon
     
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  13. 8balldave
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    from Joplin, MO

    I've got the dished pistons. The truck had a single 2 barrel, but I'm putting a 3-2 on it. I doubt it will help much, mostly for the wow factor. I might go with a slightly longer duration cam, but nothing over 220 duration. I want to be able to tow 6000 lbs of trailer.
     
  14. carbking
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    If you plan to pull a 6000 pound trailer, DON'T discard your original 2-barrel intake and carburetor, when you change to the tripower.

    Jon.
     
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  15. Joe H
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    camcode1.htm From Wallace racing, one of the best sources for Pontiac information.
     
  16. 8balldave
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    from Joplin, MO

    I've seen this page. Lots of useful info, but doesn't list the cam I found in my truck (522014). I had no idea if it was well suited for torque, although from the "old Car Manual Project" recommended by 302GMC I found that it was a 190/190 duration cam. I'm thinking I may go slightly longer, like about 205/210.
     
  17. Joe H
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    Dad tells me your cam is a stock 347 2 barrel cam used in all the cars and trucks that year. I will post it when I get the spec's.
     
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  18. 73RR
    Joined: Jan 29, 2007
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    205/210 is pretty mild for 347 inches. And, if you get it reground, pay attention to overlap numbers. Too much overlap combined with relatively low c/r does not make a stump puller. JMO
     
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  19. Joe H
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