Technical 1957 Plymouth Savoy Oil Filter Location?

I am incredibly humbled by my inability to find the oil filter on a 1957 Plymouth Savoy with a straight six engine. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I thought it would be behind the plate near the fuel pump on the passenger side, but found a shaft.

Thanks for the guidance and have a great day!
Michael

 

They didn't all have oil filters. If they did have it would be a remote cartridge type hanging off the left side of the engine, you couldn't miss it.
It's the black tin can above the starter

 

From a more familiar angle, the red can on the right is the filter

 

Don't assume it has one....and then, don't waste time looking for stuff that isn't there.

Welcome to the HAMB!

 

Thanks for the input, all!

Have a great day!
Michael

 

Yep what Jim said - yours might just not have one. Those 6's were a pretty good old motors but you could try to source one of those add on units at a swap meet or on ebay. Pretty much all makes had the add on including Chevy until I thing 1957. The replacement filter for one of the add on's can be bought at a NAPA store. Good luck with it !

 

I would really like to learn something here. My first car when I was a kid was a 57 Plymouth 4 door Savoy which had a 318 with a typewriter push button automatic. Being that just a few weeks ago, I sold my 47 Dodge Business coupe, which had the stock flathead six with fluid drive transmission and it had the external oil filter in the black can, so I know what that is.

My question is, did Plymouth really offer a flathead six for that model of Plymouth back in 57 ? I know the little flathead six banger's were in production for a long time, it just seems that would be a lot of effort for the production line to put a flathead 6, in a 57 model automobile.

I am sure that @squirrel and @Rusty O'Toole will speak up and answer that question for me and others that are interested.
Thanks from Dennis.

 

Yes they did and did up until the slant six was offered.

 

The Standard Catalog of American Cars 1946-1975 shows that the 230 CID 6 cylinder engine was the base engine in the Plaza, Savoy and Belvedere trim levels.

Russ

 

MaMopar offered the L6 in most Dodge and Plymouth models through 1959; the first Slant 6 appeared in 1960.

 

others beat me to it, it's pretty common knowledge that the Slant 6 from 1960 was the first OHV mopar six. At least, it's common knowledge among guys who were messing with cars 50 years or more ago.

 

Thanks for the education on this question. @96Mustang460cid , purely for the visual educational factor, can you please post a couple of pictures of your 57 Plymouth Savoy, with some shots, from under the hood of that " straight 6 " that you referred to in original post. It would be greatly appreciated.

Again, thanks from Dennis.

 

Rambler offered a flathead six in some models as late as '64 or '65, I believe.

 

Rambler kept making the flathead, after they introduced their OHV six. They had to make the cheapest car, after all.

 

Base engine in Plymouth and Dodge was the flathead six up to 1959. Starting in 1960 they offered the slant six. In the fifties they expected to phase out the six and go to an all V8 lineup but there was a recession and such a demand for economy cars they never did.
Some Dodge trucks came with a flathead six up to 1962. I believe they made Power Wagons with a flathead six up to 1968 but only for the military. These were the bigger 251 cu in Chrysler block. Have heard you could get a flathead six marine or industrial engine up to 1972. So if you are looking for one, it might be in that old combine or inboard cruiser.

 

Claymart and Squirrel are right about the 1964 Rambler, I have seen them. So far as I know this was the last passenger car with a flathead engine. Unless you count the King Midget. They were made up to 1969 and had a 1 lung Kohler 12HP engine like a big lawn mower.

 

...damn, you're making me feel old as I am well past the 50 mark...

 

I've seen a '64 Custom or Ambassador with the OHV I-6. And I've also seen a '65 American with the flathead six. It did make them a little cheaper which was important for AMC as the American accounted for a lot of fleet sales. I'd bet that nearly half of the later model Americans built were sold to the U.S. Postal Service.

Though at least up until 1970 AMC was still using vacuum wiper motors in some models. I mean, there's cheap and then there's just damn stubbornness.

 

We had a tug we used for towing the planes around Love Field Airport in Dallas way into the 80's with a flat head six and torque flight. Funny not many liked the old beast but she always started and earned her keep when the others didn't want to start that early in the morning.

 

I’ve one out back converted to a forklift. Be picking up a new “heart” for it this week from a fellow HAMBr

 

So, how similar are the Mopar flathead sixes? Are they all pretty much the same? Could you bolt in a late 50's engine into a late 40's car?

 

From what I understand the Dodge / Plymouth engines were 23" long, and the DeSoto / Chrysler engines were 26" long.

 

Just change the detergent oil regularly. SA 30 weight at your local auto parts store,,,,maybe not anymore

 

There are some changes along the years that will make swapping, while not impossible, just a little more work.
As said, the Dodge and Plymouth used the 23" engine (approximate length of the head) and the Chrysler and DeSoto used the 25" engine. Generally, all of the Ag equipment used the 25". Most times simply moving the radiator forward 2" accommodates a swap of similar vintages.
If you are interested in really big L6 engines, consider that Chrysler produced a 331 and a 413 L6......

 

Rambler (AMC) used the flat head 195.6 through 1965 for the base model American only (58-65). Their 56-65 195.6 OHV engine was a converted 195.6 flat head. They changed the block casting in the valve area so you can't bolt an OHV head to a flat head block, but the bottom end is the same (cam bearings, crank, rods, timing set, etc.). Cam itself is different, of course, due to the lift (lifters directly on cam lobes in flat head, rocker arms and pushrods in OHV increase lift). Lots of parts interchange made it cheap! They came out with the clean sheet design 232 OHV six in late 64, only used in a handful of 64 models though, and all in the bigger Classic model. It was available;e in the American starting in 65, but not with AC! the extra power would have been great with AC, but the front end wasn't long enough for the longer 232 and an AC condensor -- radiator had to be moved forward a couple inches, leaving no room between grille and radiator for condensor. The 66 models were redesigned to increase space there.

 

57 was the last year for the flathead 6. The slant 6 was the new engine in 58.

 

I was wrong, the slant 6 came out in 60.

 

Have you cranked down the torsion bars yet...one bolt per side...make sure to do equal cranking on each side!

 

Dodge made the military M37 pickups up to 68 with a flathead 6